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GasHole Documentary

04/22/2012 1:53 AM

After viewing the 2010 documentary "GasHole", my question has to do with getting the obvious implemented around the world.......power created from vaporized water. Why, doesn't the global community know there were always - safer, cleaner methods of producing energy - but for the sake the the GREEDY "black oil" insiders.....now OPEC........ previously Standard Oil/Seven Sisters, etc that bought the patten for a cumbustion engine that got 100 miles to a gal. of WATER in 1930? Where is that patten today? Who cares, we also know that R&D has worked on perfecting the original and must be ready to share the best of what they have with the the rest of us, Right?

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04/22/2012 5:02 AM

It might help if you provided a link to GasHole. It's here.

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04/22/2012 1:21 PM

Thank YOU Kris. Have U any (many) doubts the technology exits to convert water to energy?

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04/22/2012 2:07 PM

The technology to separate water molecules into their primary atomic gases has been well known and well understood for a few centuries now I think.

Also the fact that those two gases when ran through a internal combustion engine that was designed specifically to use those gases does produce an efficient and powerful engine.

However the process of using electrolysis or similar molecular breakdown by external energy derived from the very engine that those gases then power does not work has not worked and has been proven time and time and time again.

No oil company conspiracy or government cover up either. Just basic thermal dynamic laws and physics thats it.

The thing is there are literally millions of people who have tried and tried and tried to make this work all over the world and absolutely no one has ever managed to make it work and provide a solid honest blueprint of a working system. Many have made piles of money running scams about it though!

Believe me even I have tried before and it does not work in a closed loop system design. Supply the hydrogen and oxygen from an external source and it works well!

The oil industry does not make its money by high profit margins either. They do it by very very high volume production and sales. A few cents per gallon multiplied by billions of gallons a day adds up and basic math can easily prove it.

Does that answer your question?

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04/22/2012 2:36 PM

Must be watching the "wrong" documentaries ("Future by Design", "Energy Gamble", "Collaspe", "A Crude Awakening", and "GasHole") most recently. Have you any recommendations??????? Are you familiar with nanosolar film and its potential application?

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04/22/2012 4:54 PM

I tend to avoid the doom and gloom prediction/media hype stuff all together. That and any info that comes from any source that says they are the one and only source of information for any subject and that no other sources should be believed or considered.

If it has to be hyped up to draw attention, has been well known for having scams associated with it, or has been heavily filtered I tend to not take it to seriously.

I recommend doing research, keeping an open mind, and above all read and understand as much as you can about both sides of a story even if you don't feel you agree with one side at first. Real science does not take sides nor does it bend the facts to favor less probable outcomes.

It is what it is regardless of whom ever likes it or dislikes it or may gain or loose from it and it wont plug into your cigarette port and double your fuel mileage for $29.95 on a buy it now auction on eBay!

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05/03/2012 12:41 PM

Where have you been? We don't need no stinking oil. We don't need no stinking electrolysis. We now have the synthetic leaf that converts water into its two components using only sunlight and the water itself. No electricity or other forms of energy required. Read this!

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05/04/2012 6:22 PM

Well I hope it works! The snag is that we've been reading about great "discoveries" like this for decades and none have come to fruition. Not that they cannot, but it's been a very long wait. You can cry "wolf" only so many times. I don't believe any of the conspiracy theories such the inventor dissappeared, was murdered, his patents were bought by oil companies and kept secret, etc. etc. Many of these ideas are either obvious scams, severe over-hype by non-scientific media twits or scientists suffering from grand delusions.

On the other hand ....... Dr. Rudolf Diesel did mysteriously vanish at sea in 1913. Mmmm.

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04/22/2012 4:06 PM

None whatever.

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04/22/2012 8:34 AM

It's all BS. Same stuff that's been discussed and debunked many times. People are desperate to believe there is a way to get something from nothing. And of course, there are those 'evil oil companies' to blame!!! (boooga, boooga, booga!) What a joke.

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04/22/2012 9:00 AM

You can have fuel efficiency or you can meet emissions standards. They do not go hand in hand. Just because its clean burning does not mean its mechanically efficient.

You get one or you get the other and right now the powers that be are more concerned about how much they can make you spend so you have a clean tail pipe over having a full bank account which is why we are now just getting cars like the Prius that are just now catching up to the fuel economy numbers of many small lesser known models of cars from over 40 years ago. (Not there yet but catching.)

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04/22/2012 10:52 AM

I'll assume that you mean "patent" here,"that bought the patten for a combustion engine that got 100 miles to a gal. of WATER in 1930"

The sad truth about patents is that they do not have to be practical, or even work, to be granted.

You can't get any work out of water, without putting in more energy than you will get back.

Gravity fed generators are an exception, and then it only works once. But then, if you start looking in to how that water got "up" there in the first place, you will note that considerable energy was expended to make it evaporate and then rain down in the mountains so it could fall into the generator.

Nothing is free.

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04/22/2012 3:08 PM

Also see the numerous previous threads on CR4 regarding water electrolysis and water to energy scams.

The simple fact of the matter is they are all scams or unworkable over unity devices and have been discussed here in depth.

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04/22/2012 3:21 PM

Ah, but we've never discussed, "nanosolar film and its potential application".

How did we get there?

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application of thought?

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04/22/2012 5:06 PM

I can think of no thought process that would take a "novice", such as yourself, from using water as a combustion mechanism for internal combustion engines to nano-power generation.

Enlighten us.

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04/22/2012 11:42 PM

And WHY the (fill in urself) not?....More to the point, why do you not believe it possible to search and research what ever is conceived of ? quantum physics anyone? You might enjoy reviewing the documentary "What the #$* Do We Know"

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04/22/2012 11:58 PM

Good luck in your quest for whatever it is you are after.

I find it hard to believe that you have done much research into using water as a fuel.

Please share with us the reason you think it will work.

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04/23/2012 2:58 PM

If you are thinking of water electrolysis powered from solar panels then no that won't work either (waaaaaay too inefficient even if the solar panels were 100% efficient and cost pennys per W) and has been covered in numerous threads on CR4 too.

Have a look at the previous threads on CR4 on the subject, as a lot of us spent a great deal of time explaining it to others.

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04/23/2012 11:37 PM

Here are some threads about HHO that you might find interesting:

http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/22670#comment364051
http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/33245#comment353423
http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/35169#comment368549
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