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Wood Consumption

07/09/2012 5:25 PM

Hi all, I am writing up my dissertation and I have a reference for annual global virgin wood consumption for 1998 with an estimate for 2010. But I cannot find any recent data to corroborate, does anybody know of a source I can use?

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07/09/2012 8:02 PM

Nope. You might try the Library of Congress, the United Nations or the librarians of your university. You might even try the public access information provided by the Central Intelligence Agency. It would be a good idea to clarify if your definition of virgin wood means only non-recycled wood or only old growth wood not from farmed forests.

If you wish to discuss the engineering of timber cutting machines then somebody here might be able to help.

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07/09/2012 8:17 PM

84 million metric tons....est..

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07/09/2012 9:00 PM

Many thanks for that, where are the figures from so I can list the source.

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07/09/2012 9:38 PM

They were calculated using these figures and projected figures.....

http://www.mindfully.org/Sustainability/Clearcut-Life-Alternatives.htm

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07/10/2012 9:45 AM

That document is dated CE 2000.

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07/10/2012 10:08 AM

What do you do when you cannot find the critical data you need for your thesis in under five minutes? Instead of fabricating the data yourself, you ask somebody anonymous on the web to fabricate the data. This way you have something to cite.

Yes, it's only 10:00AM and I'm already having a bad day.

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07/10/2012 10:36 PM

If your 1998 reference is a citable source then it will list the data sources.

Check to see if these sources have been updated and then compile new data and join the dots.

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07/11/2012 7:36 AM

Unfortunately no updated info.

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07/11/2012 8:16 AM

A tree hugging organistion will be able to tell you. This sort of thing bothers them alot it seems.

Also try timber industry groups and commodity traders.

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07/11/2012 8:35 AM

111.8 million. Board feet occuring to timber industry source.

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07/11/2012 11:20 AM

Citation for that figure?

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07/11/2012 11:31 AM

The two figures in this discussion are wildy different. Unless I slipped a decimal or two these work out to about 1,600 pounds per board foot, 19,200 pounds per cubic foot.

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07/11/2012 11:51 AM

Different organisations specify in different ways, board feet, weight etc.

Weight for me would be ideal.

I agree figure dont seem to match tho,

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07/11/2012 2:34 PM

This is why I suggested going to a data archive that is not trying to sell a product or opinion to you. I also suspect that only in theory can there be a single correct answer for the amount of wood consumed by the world. I doubt everyone reporting wood consumption follow the same guide lines.

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07/11/2012 10:54 PM

I checked a us forestry source and a uk source similar answer except uk was in metric.

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Weight for me would be ideal.

Timber is normally quantified by volume not weight. Why weight mate?

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I used the universal recognized way of measuring lumber here in the US. Old forestry habits die young.

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07/12/2012 6:46 AM

ooppss, my mistake, cubic meters (or feet or anything that converts). I only say that because my original citation is volume. A lot of info seems to relate to dollars etc.

Many thanks for the responses so far.

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07/13/2012 2:46 PM

Wood is measured in board feet. You may cite me as the source.

If you live in the USA you can contact the US Department of Agriculture.

Be sure and tell them you need the most up-to-date data they have, and you need it immediately, as you've put off doing your homework till the last minute.

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07/14/2012 4:00 PM

You crack me up, :) simple question out to those who might know for some supplemental information. Homework I wish, its called continuing life's learning. Fitting it in with family, kids and a full time job! then going to uni and doing a masters.

A couple of things i have learnt, yes you can find everything you might want to know on google, but it ain't forced to be right and secondly, don't try and re-invent the wheel. This isn't my primary field of interest, so ask those whose it is.

Thank you again to the useful answers, and some of the not so.

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07/11/2012 10:49 PM

Look it up on Google there are many sources.

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