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Fading LEDs?

07/10/2012 12:42 AM

I made a circuit comprising of x-capacitor + resistor / bridge rectifier / elecrolytic capacitor / resistors in each string to limit current to drive the white LED array 5 mm leaded. The aim was to drive 140 leds made in 4 strings of 35 LEDs. The voltage was set at 3.2 v per LED and a current of 20 mA. The design appeared correct and everything is working. After 10 days (240 hours) of continuous usage (24x7), I notice a significant drop in the brightness.

when measured the voltage and currents are at the same ratings. Where have I gone wrong (or) is it the characteristics of the LED to fade ? How can I correct this problem?

Thanks for the support in advance.

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Re: Fading LED's ?

07/10/2012 4:09 AM

Two factors can contribute to the early failure of your LED strings -

1) Heat, or Over-Heating, caused by too high voltage or current, or not enough heat dissipation, or a combination of these heat problems.

2) Cheap LEDs which have a short lifespan, which is dramatically accelerated by excessive heat.

If the strips are faded, but the voltage and currents are the same, then you have "worn out" the LEDs from overheating or the LEDs were cheap.

Are these white LEDs or some other color? White fades very fast in the cheaper LEDs because the scintillating layer wears out and there's less coating reacting to the blue InGaN LED photon pump. We've seen white Christmas Light Strings of LEDs fade to 1/2 intensity in less than 100 hours. The manufacturers still get to label the LEDs as 50,000 hour lamps - they don't have to say how bright the light will be at that time.

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07/11/2012 1:26 AM

I think you have hit the nail on the head. Sounds like poor quality 5mm white led of no name brand being driven hard. By the way what current are you putting through the string?

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07/10/2012 8:21 AM

Thanks Epke and txmedic 3338.

Can any one suggest me a good 5mm white LED manufacturer - tried and tested ?

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07/10/2012 1:22 PM

Have you calculated the size and rating of your electrolytic properly? Would you be better off with a slightly more sophisticated filter?

You'd probably be better off moving most of your series resistance to limit the current in the LEDs to the bridge side of the electrolytic.

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07/11/2012 5:24 AM

?? ~240VAC / x-capacitor + resistor / bridge rectifier / elecrolytic capacitor

you likely want to redesign the chain something ...

/ bridge rectifier ± resistor:2 / N(εZ) x (ceramic cap / ± small resistor) / elecrolytic capacitor -- i'm not shure

but the not transformed direct rectification kills semiconductors at the DC side faster than transformed 1

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07/11/2012 6:28 AM

you dont want to chain too many LEDs in series coz they have not matching parameters as below ! simulation !

LTspice simulation (/!\ not veryfied that everything is safe down here /!\)

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07/11/2012 9:23 AM

R-C - Chain / Line - Noise
/!\ i don't design such systems but i've done misc. stat. signal proccessing /!\

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07/11/2012 12:35 PM

"Real Fact"#947 on my Diet Snapple bottle cap states "4,000,000 individual LEDs light up the America's Got Talent stage". I guess someone knows how to do it. As previously stated by others, your problem could be related to poor quality LEDs, but my money is on the probability that you are not effectively removing the heat they dissipate. The cooler they run, the longer they last. Try mounting some of them on a thermally conductive heat sink with a thermally conductive adhesive and see if they last longer.

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07/11/2012 4:27 PM

LEDs are always fed with constant DC current source to maintain LED junction temperature constant otherwise it will thermally runaway. If AC supply voltage fluctuates that is fed to DC constant current source, the constant current source will absorbed the AC voltage fluctuations and maintains output as constant DC current to LEDs. So LEDs will emit same lumens. LEDs always need to be fed with DC current source only.

This is because whenever a LED fails in the string it fails as a shot but not as a open( That is the reason they are connected in series). Once one LED fails the total voltage across the LED string decreases by 3Volt DC but DC constant current source will reduce its output DC voltage by 3.2Volts and maintains constant current (20mAmp).

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07/11/2012 5:21 PM

Your answer is precisely correct-however, you missed my point. Even with a properly constructed constant current source, the temperature at which the LED operates is determined by the thermal resistance from its junction to ambient temperature. As this thermal resistance is reduced, the device operates at a lower temperature and its life is extended.

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