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Liquid Service

07/16/2012 8:01 AM

Hi All,

We have install flow transmitter below the tapping point (600mm away ) during the commissioning we have found the reading is not accurate therefore we have lower another few inches, is the elevation does affect the reading whereby this instrument is a dp pressure.

any advise please.

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Re: Liquid Service

07/16/2012 8:47 AM

1. Have you purged all air/gas out of the impulse lines? Mounting the transmitter below the element keeps vapor out while in service, but does not ensure that the lines are self-purging.

2. Are impulse lines open and not plugged?

3. Element sized correctly, transmitter calibrated and connected correctly?

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Re: Liquid Service

07/16/2012 12:01 PM

Do you know what type of instrument you have?

You call it both a "flow transmitter" and a "dp pressure".

First advice is to decide what the instrument is supposed to do.

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Re: Liquid Service

07/17/2012 3:30 AM

What did the application notes tell you?

Can you paint a better word picture for us please?

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Re: Liquid Service

07/17/2012 7:22 AM

Bigg is on the right path.

Elevation should not affect the readings if
- tapping points are at same elevation
- installation of the transmitter is level, so that transmitter high and low ports are at the same elevation
- impulse lines are full of a medium consisting of a single phase liquid, which does not separate into multiple phases of different densities
- impulse lines are purged of air, vapor or gases
- liquid in impulse tubing is not boiling or subliming into its gas phase
- liquid doesn't freeze in the impulse tubing

I have experienced 44 other factors affect the DP readings, here's 4:
- equalizing valve in 3 valve manifold (or discrete valving) is leaking or not completely shut
- 3 valve manifold clogged
- poor installation of drilled ports in the piping
- transmitter setup is incorrect

As always, I am suspicious of those who claim the "reading is not accurate" when they fail to specify what reference they use to determine "accuracy", what the medium is, what the primary flow element is, nor provide examples of the magnitude of the observed errors over a range; all of which bring the evaluation itself into question and hinders any viable assessment of probable cause.

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Re: Liquid Service

07/17/2012 10:14 AM

Exactly what is at the "tapping point"?

What type of flow meter do you have there? Insertion type ("Hot Tap"), strap-on type, or in-line type? What is the flow measuring mechanism? What fluid are you measuring?

Has this flowmeter been calibrated according to the manufacturer's written instructions?

When measuring water flow you need to eliminate any and all obstructions, orifices, bends, valves etc etc at least 10 pipe diameters upstream and at least 5 pipe diameters downstream of a flowmeter....try to get the flow as close to laminar as possible/practical.

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Re: Liquid Service

07/25/2012 8:16 AM

Volumetric or mass flow measurement is not required ? Horizontal line with vertical Installation of valve is useful . In this , outlet pressure will not create extra pressure with pressure sensor in DP measure .

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