At least it seems that the land owner is taking it in good spirits.

The vandals, yes vandals, did not have permission to be on the property. At least, if they did, the land owner didn't acknowledge it.

Hey! Just because it was it eastern Washington state (not far from Moscow) why do people automatically accuse University of Idaho students of doing this.

Idaho has a university?

Actually two.

Is that before or after the vodka?

One for each head??

Sure, if you can be in two places at once! (U of Idaho, Moscow; Idaho State U, Pocatello.)

Hoooooleeeee crap...

There are NO cropfields of any kind in Seattle...

Besides, the story is of wheat fields in *Eastern* Washington...over two *hundred* miles from Seattle *over* the Cascades...the dateline for the story is Seattle.

I hate it when the world groups all of Washington into that one town they can all remember and think the whole state revolves around it.

Anyway...I'd be p*ssed as hell that someone was destroying my crops in a drought year for the US...I'd be kicking some alien a**!

Hmmm... well, to tell ya the truth, I normally just throw the whole state of Washington in with the state of Oregon, and call it good. Aren't they interchangeable?

Nope...Hippies and Hipsters really don't mix...

besides, you cannot pump your own gas in Oregon...that's what the hippies are for!

The article I read was datelined/filed in Seattle, but gave a very specific location of the vandalized field, "off Highway 174, about five miles north of the town of Wilbur. The field is about 10 miles south of the Grand Coulee dam, "

BTW, I'd throw Idaho and Montana in with Oregan and Washington, too. The 50-60 people who live in those states won't mind.

I have not been paying attention.

Lyn, I see 600+ GA marks, and I see you are the most prolific poster at CR4!

Congratulations on these two impressive CR4 milestones. Well done, keep it up!

Thank you for the kind words.

What that really means is that I spend way too much time here noodling around in other people's business, and occasionally find an acorn. (even blind hogs find acorns)

Hi Lyn and congratulations - way to be there for those seeking guidance.

No... stating that crop circles are made by aliens is a joke. My question isn't. Despite where this thread seems to have gone, my question was regarding how the people that make crop circles get into the field in EASTERN Washington state, without breaking any of the wheat stalks and leaving a sign that they were there. Wheat grows very close together.

It's been suggested that they walk in the tractor tracks. But the tractor tracks still have wheat growing in them, as they were laid down before the wheat sprouted.

It was suggested that they flatten the stalks on top of their tracks, but they still have to get out to the road somehow, which is quite distant.

It was also suggested they used stilts (actually I mentioned that in my original question), but that would not be very easy to do without getting tripped up on rough soil and in the wheat, and also very deep holes would be evident. The farmers know their fields, and looked for tracks or signs, but none were found. So although there were one or two suggestions, amongst the GA debate, it seems no one has any more creative ideas. I guess those folks are pretty clever.

I suppose it is simple and the "researchers" claiming the fantastic origin know that too but make a fuzz.

The creators have to be seen as artists.

Leave them in their knowledge and little world, unless you want to join them, which means you will have to start experimenting.

Really, 50-60? Color me surprised - I didn't realize there were that many of us.

Just messin' with The.Tinkerer.

Well, I was just messin' with you.

Have an awesome day and again, congratulations on a job well done!

Actually we in Montana do mind LOL.

And the vote is:

For Minding: 1

For Not Minding: 1

So far the voting is tied, with 2 of the possible 60 Montana votes recorded.

Oh, now THAT'S funny!

For a perfectly timed and executed smart off the cuff response I vote Good Answer.

^{Scratch scratch scritch scratch scratch...}

I yelled at the other 58 to come in and vote before we shut the computer down for the day!

Yeah, I gave 'em a holler this morning. Sure hope they hurry, the hampster's about had it for the day.

I was thinking we should upgrade to a squirrel. They seem to have a little more energy then that darn hamster. Then maybe the computer could stay on until almost dinner time.

Hey, now there's an idea! There's a family of 'em livin' out in the shed, maybe I can run 'em in shifts and keep the puter on till bed time.

You think that is mysterious, explain the crop circles in the Antarctic.

Antarctic Crop Circle

I suspect it is just a bunch of penguins goofing off.

Wear snowshoes, and walk only on the parts that have already been tamped down.

If you keep going around, pretty soon there will be two heffalumps, then four, then six....

--Winnie the Pooh

Over here there are professional crop circle creators, on specialized websites they keep the scores of media attention.

A farmer can make nice money out of this if he reacts well, so he orders a crop circle.

This was the best I stumbled upon lately

I like that one, too!

photoshop would not have left any footprints

Without reading the entire discussion...if I were tasked with doing this, I'd walk in on stilts and then use them as a tool to push the wheat down, then walk on out again on the stilts.

Don't know whether it has passed already: The main technique is to use the tractor tracks.

Dope on a Rope..... Helicopter

I use levity.... when practicing practical jokes...

So not one of you has ever went out hunting and tried to follow a deers tracks through a field even if it was just walking and not running?

Think about it for a moment. A four legged animal with four hooves that weighs about the same as the average person that can walk or run through a field and not easily be tracked by the average person.

BTW most wheat fields are planted on 5 - 6 inch row spacing. So how many people here have a foot wider than that if wearing sole less leather moccasins which do not leave much of a foot print on hard dry soil which is what most field dirt turns into naturally by the end of the wheat growing season?

Where I am from most people familiar with a wheat field can walk through one with out leaving much of a trail even without trying. (Unless you wear a size 14W boot like mine)

Some interesting food for thought.

Dr Kashonia Carnegie interviews one of the World's leading authorities on Crop Circles, Lucy Pringle.

How are genuine crop circles REALLY formed? Lucy shares the secrets

I have a deep passion for crop circle research and in today's interview I was honored to speak with one of, if not THE, top International Crop Circle/Formation researchers, Lucy Pringle.

I honestly believe that the genuine circles are formed by inter-dimensional entities who are attempting to send us life and planet saving messages.

Now I know that sounds like really WOO WOO stuff. But at this time on our planet we are being asked to, at least, have an open-mind to all sorts of unusual things. And when you hear some of the stories that Lucy shares you'll realize that there can be no other explanation.

Lucy took a position on crop circles that I didn't quite expect, but which I found very interesting and certainly added credibility to all she said.

She spoke about her great passion - researching the crop formations from the perspective of their power to heal all sorts of medical conditions. She also shares the discoveries she's made during research with a scientist colleague that seems to be the most plausible explanation for how the genuine formations are made. This is REALLY interesting stuff.

LUCY PRINGLE

Lucy Pringle is arguably the world's leading crop circle/ formation researcher. She is also a highly renowned aerial photographer and has the UK's most comprehensive photographic crop circle library.

Lucy works with scientists from all over the world; she is an author; and regularly appears on leading television and radio broadcasts, in many countries throughout the world speaking extensively on the crop circle phenomenon. The BBC recently produced a program of "Inside Out", which featured her research.

Lucy is a Founder member of the Centre for Crop Circle Studies; is a Founder Member and Chairman of UNEX (Unexplained Phenomena Research Society); and is widely known and an international authority and the pioneer researcher into the effects of electromagnetic fields on living systems. This includes the physiological and psychological effects reported by people after visiting or being in the vicinity of a crop formation. She also investigates animal behavior, remote effects, luminosities, mechanical failures, and audio effects resulting from crop formations. Her research shows measured changes in human hormones following short exposure to the circles, as well as changes in brain activity.

Her books include Crop Circles, the Greatest Mystery of Modern Times (1999); Crop Circles (2002); and Crop Circles, Art in the Landscape (2007).

The link to Lucy's interview download page is

http://www.EnvisioningConsciousness.com/interviews/Page/Lucy-7754.html

Again, just a normal left click on this link and you'll be taken to a webpage where you'll be able to download the mp3.

Do get back to me if you have any problems

Dr. Kashonia Carnegie
... Envisioning Consciousness - Your Interactive On-line Magazine...

www.EnvisioningConsciousness.com

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Corrected link to Lucy's interview

Thanks for that Doorman's Chick. The link in your first linked site didn't work for me.

Doorman's Chick, eh? Hmmmnmm. Say, maybe we should get together sometime? Sounds like we may have some common ground.

I like your avatar!

You are welcome Doorman.

I agree, we should get together sometime, so why don't you give me a call - you've got my number!

CR4, not just an Engineering site anymore!

It's also home to comedy, physiology and DATING! I'd like to hope that some of MY escapades, that I've so shamelessly posted here, have something to do with your budding relationship!

Your postings about your devotion to Mrs. North are notoriously inspirational. I have taken that inspiration and used the energy to find a true love of my very own.

Our budding relationship had sort of a head start: Doorman's Chick and I are high school sweethearts, reunited here at CR4 after a 38 year hiatus.

That's a wonderful story, Doorman! Congratulations to the both of you!

Thank you for that my friend. I am pleased to be able to share this with all of my our CR4 friends.