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All UK Members. Help please.

08/04/2012 3:23 AM

In the past I have mentioned the Fatally Flawed campaign to ban the sale of unsafe childproof socket covers in the UK. We have stepped things up a gear and started a parliamentary E-Petition.

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/36699

Please take a little time to read and sign

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08/04/2012 3:30 AM

Done

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08/04/2012 3:32 AM

Thank you

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08/04/2012 5:36 AM

Done - and shared on FB.

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08/04/2012 12:52 PM

Done. I'll put it up on an Expat site.

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08/04/2012 1:33 PM

Done.

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08/04/2012 1:52 PM

Do you have any data to support your claim of injuries or deaths caused by unsafe socket covers? Just curious. Do you, in the UK have a similar testing and approval agency as Underwriters Laboratory (UL)? Are the faulty devices made in the UK or are they imported from China. If the latter, your government should clamp down at the import level.

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08/04/2012 6:03 PM

Please see the www.fatallyflawed.org.uk/ website

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08/05/2012 12:31 AM

My recommendations are :1) Mount sockets at a higher level,say table top,as in kitchen so that sockets will be inaccessible for kids.

2)For every socket fix a switch at a higher level,say,light switch level,not reachable by kids 3)Incorporate an indicator light in every switch to see whether power is available at the outlet. To reduce vampire power we can switch it off.

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08/05/2012 4:29 AM

I urge all members to cease whinging and writing to parliament. It is because of governments becoming involved with trivia like this that we have an overbearing, near bankrupt state and a litigious minded general population. Treat people like grown ups. Socket covers are not unsafe they add a further layer of protection; whether it's needed is for individuals to decide. British sockets are very safe and I don't think covers are needed but for parents who do, covers make sense. A child can develop a curious fixation with pushing items in holes. If the earth pin (the largest) is probed it can uncover the phase and neutral pins. further probing could deliver a fatal shock. Adding a cover makes it very difficult for this sense of curiosity to deliver a fatal shock. The child has to remove the socket cover, not terribly easy for a very young child and then start probing. The pictures on the fatally flawed website are pushing the bounds of any child's curiosity. And the overheated socket has nothing to do with socket covers.

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08/05/2012 6:03 AM

You obviously haven't looked at the website before posting. www.fatallyflawed.org.uk/

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08/05/2012 9:44 AM

Richard, this is a well documented fault and the government have done nothing to stop the sale of these socket covers.

So what would you suggest we (as experienced engineers) should do other than ask government to do something about these dangerous devices?

It isn't called whinging and it certainly isn't trivial.

I've signed.... John.

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08/06/2012 7:14 AM

Cheers John

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