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TSA Spending $1,000 Per Employee on New Uniforms!

03/08/2013 10:17 AM

This adds up to a cool $50,000,000.00 US dollars spent for nothing.

TSA spending $1,000 per employee on new uniforms!

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03/08/2013 11:09 AM

They had to get that in before the sequester takes place, while our border guards have nothing for replacement uniforms and have to buy their own.

Hello My name is B.H.O. POTUSofA, and I'm here to help you.

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03/08/2013 11:14 AM

What about all our boys and girls who are stuck in FOB's around the world?

This is the epitome of lunacy, not to mention arrogance.

That wasn't Obama, it was Janet Napolotano.

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03/08/2013 11:33 AM

Well, I'm not going to go into details of POTHUSofA......

would campaign about the details On How Sequester Will Hurt Disabled Children and Abused Women........

yet, POTHUSofA made sure to supply 1 Billion Dollar Bailout to Save the Muslim Brotherhood ... pledging to help Egypt's failing economy, from the Obama administration and in the ways he did it....

And how he did it......

before this is censored due to the political nature............ too late, huh?

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03/11/2013 9:05 AM

Considering the cost of the two ventures by the previous president, $1 billion is very, very cheap.

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03/11/2013 10:32 AM

unfortunately, that isn't a sound justification.

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03/12/2013 10:00 AM

I'm just making a point that it isn't this administration that created this monster. The entire $50 mil isn't just for a couple of shirts, either. When people post links from a decisively biased website, it should be rebutted by honest answers to honest question, or ignorance will replicate itself in a million chain emails.

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03/12/2013 10:41 AM

OK, you guys are right. Lets just keep the lies going.

Moderator, please delete my account. I'm finished here. Nothing has changed since the last time I quit this group 8+ years ago, regardless of the hopes I had.

Goodbye everyone, have a pleasant life.

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03/12/2013 11:11 AM

"...regardless of the hopes I had."

Your discord is due to not being able to accept CR4 for what it is. You are paddling upstream in a canoe called "Hope" and you will always feel exhausted and frustrated when you do.

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03/15/2013 6:41 PM

Yay!!!

Nah-nah-nah-nah

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Hey hey hey

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03/12/2013 11:07 AM

I would likely agree with your assessment, but it is true your previous remark did not really support your claim.

On the other side of the coin, the TSA didn't get the reputation it has out of a political vacuum. There is more than a simple preponderance of evidence to show the TSA is not effective, yet intrusive, and serves chiefly as a "feel-good" initiative toward keeping the skies safe at a huge cost of managing tax paid 65,000 employees.

For those reasons we see the hyperbole we do today and will likely continue to see it as long as the agency exists.

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03/08/2013 1:09 PM

That wasn't Obama, it was Janet Napolitano.

Seriously?! LOL

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03/08/2013 1:11 PM

Hey, distraction worked for our Emperor In Chief.

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03/08/2013 2:21 PM

Wrong!

The uniforms are part of normal business, they had to continue as if the sequester would not take place in case it didn't. TSA, like the border guards get their initial uniforms supplied but must pay for replacements.

You obviously hate the President beyond his politics, but you should still get your facts straight for man attack.

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03/08/2013 2:56 PM

I don't hate the president, what I hate is incompetance........ speaking of which.

You must really be in love with the president beyond his politics, to regurgitate my facts as facts then claim that I should get my facts straight for man attacks...... Great example!

You statement is fluff and incompetent.

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03/08/2013 5:18 PM

According to all the reports, these are new uniforms for all screeners. This is their third uniform since it was implemented.

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03/08/2013 12:11 PM

What I don't get is that the allowance for new employees and they are under the sequester their to cut hours to save money.

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03/08/2013 12:20 PM

Yes, but when the do work, the'll look very professional in those new uniforms.

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03/08/2013 1:09 PM

The Sequester really isn't that huge of a cut, not when you look at the budget......... what is damaging, is the across the board cuts.......

if they were to cut 85 Billion from non essential programs, you would not even notice. But instead using the Sequester to campaign as a political means to be able to write an open check is what the Sequester doom and gloom is all about.

As far as I'm concerned, we should sequester some more..... and bring spending under control or until the political dopes dumbing up, and that will only happen when bread is being taking from their tables

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03/08/2013 3:11 PM

cnsnews.com is another privately funded right wing rag that likes to spin everything the administration does....

"According to the TSA's Uniformed Employees Appearance and Responsibilities memo, the standard TSA uniform package provided under the contract consisting of 3 trousers, 3 short sleeve shirts, 3 long sleeve shirts, 2 neckties, 1 sweater vest, 1 team jacket, 2 pairs of shoulder boards, 1 belt, 3 pairs of socks, and 1 nametag.

And the $50 million is not all for uniforms. The contract also requires VF Imagewear to create and maintain a secured, web-based system through which authorized TSA officers can order uniforms.

Finally, as with all government contracts, $50 million is the maximum amount that can be paid to VF Imagewear during the term of the contract, not the actual amount that will be spent.

The government's need for new uniforms, both military and law enforcement, is massive and ongoing. Besides the military and TSA, a few other agencies needing uniforms are, Customs and Border Patrol, Parks and Wildlife, FBI, Drug Enforcement, Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, and Capitol Police."

http://usgovinfo.about.com/b/2013/03/08/about-the-50m-tsa-uniform-contract.htm

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03/08/2013 3:23 PM

Cutting spending is hard, but I rather take spending cuts than spending money that does not exist

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03/08/2013 3:36 PM

Well I think everybody would agree that we need to cut spending, the problem is where, and the trick is not to spark an economic downturn in the process....

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03/08/2013 3:55 PM

Well I think everybody would agree that we need to cut spending

I think that is a consensus

and the trick is not to spark an economic downturn in the process....

I understand that one has to spend money to make money.......whats interesting is

if spending money, money that not only doesn't really existing to stimulate the economy, money that is monumental to create.

Then I feel the economy isn't in the best of shape to really matter to begin with,...... i.e. take your licks today, or get a good spanking tomorrow

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03/08/2013 5:21 PM

Everybody?? Really, seems only one side of the aisle is the only one interested and not all of them.

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03/11/2013 11:27 AM

Good point. One of the main advantages of having a spiffy new TSA uniform (or even a slightly tattered one) is that it gives the wearer the chance to access to parts of the airport that you and I can't get into in our civvies. My guess is that the design, manufacture, and delivery of these uniforms costs quite a bit more than similar looking clothes you might find at WalMart. Some part of that is due to the security issue you mention. To determine if theses uniforms are truly overpriced would seem to require a separate accounting of the costs of the articles of clothing and the costs to secure the clothing so that bad guys cant't get them. I wonder how much a terrorist group would pay for a TSA uniform?

This may well be a boondoggle. Contractors have been known to gouge, and there are persistent rumors that our quest for security may be creating a 'bubble' in security spending. But just the fact that twenty articles of clothing might cost $1000 ($50 per item) is not very conclusive.

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03/11/2013 11:50 AM

I doubt seriously that wearing a TSA uniform will allow you to gain access to any sensitive areas in an airport.

No badge, no access.

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03/11/2013 11:57 AM

No, its a combinations........... you have a badge but no uniform can make it more difficult......... for say questioning are you where your suppose to be........ maybe, its paranoia, until you ask the question, why is it we have TSA?.

IMO. that the employees at TSA, like allot of government employees, .........are just concentrating on collecting their pensions and they don't like making waves

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03/11/2013 1:00 PM

Entry level positions in the TSA are about $15 per hour. It is about the same as a private security job. The numbers of "good" applicants are rather low and this leaves a lot of positions filled with applicants that just make minimal requirements. It's the same way with private security jobs.

The job also is extremely boring and mentally frustrating. One agent told me that they spend their whole day basically repeating the same phrases to people that are miserable and in some cases hostile.

The bright side is that as a government employee you get very good benefits. Given the stress and work you do you need all the breaks. perks, and time off you can get.

The other thing is with a bottom run job you can only move up or not at all.

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03/11/2013 1:12 PM

maybe, this picture says it all..........

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03/08/2013 5:07 PM

Silly. They should have just bought Boy Scout and Girl Scout uniforms.

They are cheaper and it would have lulled people into thinking they were actually being useful.

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03/08/2013 5:30 PM

Not much cheaper.....

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03/08/2013 5:33 PM

But the b.s. and g.s. have to buy their own........ Of course the g.s. cookies rake you over the coals......

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03/08/2013 5:54 PM

You haven't bought any Boy Scout uniforms lately, have you. I have.

Then, there's the tent, Class B uniforms, shoes, shorts, jackets, camping gear.......

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03/09/2013 8:32 PM

If you paid $1,000 for a Boy Scout or Girl Scout uniform, I have a matching bridge you might be interested in...

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03/09/2013 9:03 PM

No thanks.

I already own three bridges and a fleet of barges that generate electricity.

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03/08/2013 10:03 PM

We could actually have a chance of salvaging this thread, if we made it about pointing out instances of government waste....without getting into party affiliation.

The Alaskan bridge to nowhere comes to mind.

No reason to get partisan; politicians, theft, and waste are a global reality. Nobody is immune from the self serving stupidity of politicians. We just get to pay for it and vote for people that promise to fix it.

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03/09/2013 12:22 AM

Right on! I have come to understand, the 1st lier never stands a chance.

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03/08/2013 10:18 PM

It's pretty pointless to argue along party lines.

One fish is the government; one fish is the people.

One fish says to the other fish, " If you don't find a way to feed me more, I will let you die".

Can anyone guess which fish is which?

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03/09/2013 7:20 PM

TSA = The Science Academy? Telecommunications Society of Australia? Texas Society of Anesthesiologists? Thinking Skills Assessment?

Perhaps a little less xenocentric thought is required to help out those of us who are in other parts of the world.

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03/09/2013 10:21 PM

TSA = Transportation Security Administration

http://www.tsa.gov/

It's was a department that the United States created after 9/11. Started more/less like other government programs of good intentions but IMO is nothing more than another bloated government agency.

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03/09/2013 11:56 PM

Thanks. A knee jerk reaction without full thought? Sounds familiar, maybe it's human nature.

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03/10/2013 7:59 AM

Thats AOK... ;)

Well sometimes we forgot this is a world Conference Room...... And assumption are made

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03/15/2013 6:46 PM

Perhaps clicking on the link provided in the original post would help you with some xenocentric glasses...

TSA is defined in the first damned sentence!

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03/11/2013 9:15 AM

Maybe a little truth about this subject wouldn't hurt anyone:

http://usgovinfo.about.com/b/2013/03/08/about-the-50m-tsa-uniform-contract.htm

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03/12/2013 12:59 PM

Thank you (and SolarEagle) for the link.

A google search on "TSA Uniforms news" turned up a short list of known to be (to me at least) right wing media outlets, none from any other media outlets, and a few .gov references. This confirms my suspicion that this is right wing media taking one sentence and trying to make it into something it is not. The more they do that, the less I trust them.

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03/11/2013 12:04 PM

lyn being a skeptic I wonder who owns the company that manufactures the uniforms.

Follow the $$

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03/11/2013 12:18 PM

VF Corporation owns VF Imagewear.

Rumor has it that the uniforms will be made in Mexico, but I have not tried to confirm this.

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03/11/2013 5:49 PM

VF corp is a publicly owned company....and I think the largest uniform supplier in the world....If you think they make too much money, then buy some stock and share in the wealth....currently selling at $162 per share and earning around $10 per share, it has a market cap of $17.5 bil....

http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/vfc

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03/11/2013 12:39 PM

It's interesting, having worked in a shipyard that built Vessels for the U.S. Navy, there was always a gratuitous jobs to the retiring brass in the pentagon at the yard that helped with the contracts.

A friend of mine, who was a veteran, had his own business bid on some contracts for a press that made the arrestor cables that caught the aircraft on our Aircraft carriers, lost to some recently retired naval brass, that created a newly formed company, won the contract, and sent the whole works to Canada.

All they were, were paper pushers.

Well he put in a protest, because the contract stipulated that the work had to be done domestically eventually won.

Allot of mistakes have been made the last 20 years, and because of that, using the excuse that we should keep operating the same way, is ridicules.

And to have to courage to change from business as usually, imo separates true leaders from average career politicians

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03/11/2013 1:25 PM

Phoenix911 have you ever used a pipe/tube joining coupling manufacturered by Straub ? We rerpresent this company selling the product to indstries other than shipbuilding. This coupling is very well made and always performs as advertised. This coupling was designed initially for use in the shipbuilding industries.

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03/11/2013 1:41 PM

At the yard, I was in the CNC Machining.

BUT,

Currently I'm designing the cooling water expansion at one of our facilities, 18" pipe @ 9,000 GPM

The decision needs to be made in the next 10 days,........ going on a 5 day vacation....so the decision has to be made in 5 days......

We normally weld the pipe, but because of the neccessity to reduce our down time, I have to decide if we are going to weld all of it, or use Victaulic fittings in key areas to reduce down time.....

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03/15/2013 6:54 PM

Pay attention...all of you who have never worked for an official US government agency nor the US military...

These uniforms are what is known as "organizational clothing". Military uniforms also fall into this category. Military personnel are given clothing allowance every year near their entry date anniversary. (Allowances are non-taxable). They must maintain their regular uniforms with the money they are given. Uniforms may only be purchased by the government contract producer and are only available (new) from PX, NEX, etc.

The military also has special organizational clothing which is issued and turned in upon completion of assignment (usually).

TSA "uniforms" are the same way. The average Joe off of the street should not be allowed to purchase a TSA uniform at Wal-Mart, Sears, Penneys, Target or wherever. That would defeat the purpose of the security of the uniform. Instead of being given a clothing allowance, the TSA purchases the uniforms for the employee. They are issued to the employee. If an employee needs a new shirt, they turn in the old one and get a new one. Eventually the stock needs to be replenished.

You are all getting into a tizzy about nothing.

Done.

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03/15/2013 7:07 PM

Tizzy?

In hindsight, I should have checked the source before posting. I'd have not posted it if I had.

I should have known it would "go political".

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03/15/2013 9:39 PM

You ok Cuba_pete........

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03/16/2013 7:53 AM

Lets hope these guys won't be selling uniforms. Seems like it would be a great way for child molesters and house burglars to fit right in and go unnoticed.

http://www.empowernetwork.com/goldenenterprise/blog/usps-clothing-line/

$1000 per employee does sound a little high. That amount would keep me dressed for about 20 years.

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