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Heidi Doe De Doe De Doe Here We Go Again!

05/03/2013 9:56 PM

Okay I was thinking about my idea on a Silicon based petroleum and you know I absolutely love silicon it is awesome stuff it is 2nd in the element scale and it has a diamond structure that allows it to have great flexibility as well as durability. I think that having a silicon based petroleum would be AWESOME and used for mass purposes anywhere from Aeronautics, to electronics, to a hell of a sound barrier. It allows the transfer of electrical current like no other and if we could form a bubble per say around something that we would want to protect the sound of I think that it could withstand a noise as loud as a sonic boom. Maybe my little noggin' just gets to thinking too big or overtime sometimes but that's how I see it. Okay moving on towards Aircraft for windows or whatever it would withstand pressure from obtaining high altitudes at a very fast rate as well as distribution of temperature evenly and be able to take it, ya know. So silicon based petroleum with super duper fine sand at the right temp would totally give us supper slipper flexible durable glass man. Please somebody put me in check if I'm ever out of line on my way of thinking

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05/03/2013 10:41 PM

Cocaine or methamphetamine?

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08/05/2013 9:43 AM

My guess would be Chardonnay or Reisling...

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08/05/2013 10:23 AM

To dismiss a fairly well researched idea so quickly out of hand is either dim-witted, or prejudiced in a way that could have a bad effect on the weight given to future comments, please try to keep somewhat of an open mind, even if you must view things with a jaundiced eye. However, the OP did not include reference articles that could have opened the discussion to some meaningful comments. This only came much later in the posts.

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05/04/2013 7:29 AM

IT IS NUMBER 14!!! NOT 2. Where are you from?

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05/04/2013 7:49 AM

As if 1 post about sillycon is not enough!

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05/05/2013 12:38 AM

The existence of what we know as 'petroleum' is due to the growth, burial, and decay of (carbon-based) forests and other (carbon-based) living organisms over a period of millions of years. While it has been suggested that it is conceivable that life could develop with a silicon base rather than a carbon base, if I'm not mistaken, that development would have to occur in a location having a significantly higher temperature than that found near the surface of the Earth, and therefore based on some other fluid than water.

Where do you propose finding the buried ancient (silicon-based) forests, from which to extract the petroleum?

Silicon is second from the top of the tetravalent element column, but as someone else already pointed out, it is element #14, NOT #2.

If you propose to fabricate a 'petroleum' based on silicon, it would require more energy to fabricate it than could be extracted at 'burn' time. An engine capable of burning the resulting fuel would have to withstand temperatures significantly higher than current engines, and so would have to be fabricated of vastly more expensive materials, if such materials can be found.

In short, It ain't gonna happen in my lifetime...

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05/05/2013 7:21 AM

You might add to that: Compounds of silicon and hydrogen (silanes) are well known. There would be 2 very serious disadvantages to using them for almost anything involving fuel:

1) The are spontaneously flammable in the presence of oxygen.

2) The products of combustion are silicon dioxide (a white sold, "sand" in another form) and water.

What a disastrous combination! Well at least you wouldn't a spark plug.

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08/05/2013 2:57 AM

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05/05/2013 2:57 AM

Hey Boss

I have a large piece of 99.996% pure silicon. It is the end of what are called ( I forgot what they are called ) but they are like a large candle. They kind of look like it.

They are round and long and tappered at the end. These are then sliced sidways like Salami in thin plates. The plates are then put through the process to make a bunch of

CPUs or controler Chips. In this case Rockwell 6502 Controler Chips.

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The ends of these Ingets that was the word I could not recall earlyer. I have a at least one of them. They are brittle. Even Standard Glass is stronger. However I know the largest ship in the world is the Merske ( forgot the name of the ship) but the silicon on the bottom makes it slide through the water and saves a butt load of fule.

It would have to be mixed with something to make it strong as the bottm of a ship has to deal with sand and other crap hitting it at 35 knots in water where the sand and ice etc.. due to water being 832 times more dence than air so even small objecks

do more damage than in air at the same speed as they can not move out of the way as fast. So it has to be very hard. Also various barnacles etc.. that are hard as hell grow on the bottom and they have to be grouned off with a sander or sand blaster and a new solution is high pressure water with sand in it.

So I think you are on to something. And do not let the nay sayers stop you from thinking. It is good to think and try to come up with new ideas. It just takes one to make the world a better place.

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05/05/2013 7:10 AM

Oh God, give me strength!

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05/06/2013 3:52 PM

I agree with you 100%, and wish I could add more. The future of civilization is in the hands of ????!!!!

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05/07/2013 2:54 AM

A large group of females with a silicon fetish ??

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05/05/2013 7:53 AM

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05/05/2013 11:35 AM

Hmm... Got plans for a single cylinder silicon-petroleum engine. Interested? S.M.

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05/06/2013 12:47 PM

I would agree that Silicon is cool, but I do not think you have the chemical background to make those claims. Naturally occurring silicon is mostly sand which is useful for a few things, but not as a fuel source.

Please draw out the chemical diagram showing how silicon can be used as fuel before making such claims.

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08/02/2013 11:27 PM

"Scientists could end fuel crisis by turning sand into petrol."

An excellent example of a totally misleading headline!

They are NOT turning sand into petrol! They are simply improving the method of removing the petrol from between the grains of sand. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with silicon as a fuel.

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08/05/2013 9:21 AM

Actually you should read this article:

http://blog.hasslberger.com/2010/03/turning_sand_into_fuel_silicon.html

I find nothing in the article that is out of the real of possibility. In fact, since Si atoms from the heavier silanes (that are in fact stable liquids in air) combine with Nitrogen to yield Si3N4 (silicon nitride), there is a much higher heat of combustion by using all the air for combustion, not just the oxygen. This also means that turbines running off this would not have as large of a compressor section, and require less compression energy, making them even more thermodynamically favorable.

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08/03/2013 10:02 AM

Heidi, did you not read this article last time you brought up the 'fuel from sand' debate?

http://blog.hasslberger.com/2010/03/turning_sand_into_fuel_silicon.html

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09/10/2013 1:30 AM

Professor Mark Sephton, who led the team at Imperial College London, said: "We aim to show the technique could be used to recycle the prodigious amounts of water necessary to process tar sand deposits and turn them into conventional petroleum." 6/13
How could there be another way?- or forget thinking about any o' that...---oh let's just shut the door, since no'mo' to patent...Too late: Was already done a couple centuries ago with pseudo-objective 'scientific'-theory, not science. (scientia:knowledge, only knowledge)

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