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Firestorm Over Fireworks Leads to Proposed Aftermarket Exhaust Ban

Posted October 06, 2014 10:00 AM by dstrohl
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When Michigan State Representative Doug Geiss introduced House Bill No. 5726 earlier this year, he had no idea the brouhaha that would ensue.

The bill proposes modifying current Michigan law, which already restricts the noise levels of car and motorcycle exhaust, to add severe penalties to shops that knowingly install illegal exhaust systems. What probably got people worked up was the proposed $10,000 fine a shop could be hit with for installing such a system.

We reached out to Rep. Geiss, a Ford engineer on a leave of absence from the Blue Oval while serving in the state house, to get his take on why he submitted such a bill to the Michigan House Transportation Committee. It turns out that some of his constituents were upset with people setting off fireworks, allowed in Michigan only on national holidays and the days preceding and following national holidays. Citizens then turned their attention to something apparently more annoying than a three-day firecracker binge: loud motorcycles.

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10/06/2014 4:36 PM

This is what Maine did for cycle noise...and then they made fireworks legal! Although it's now legal to sell fireworks, many towns have their own ban on them.

http://www.mainelegislature.org/legis/statutes/29-a/title29-asec1912.html

http://www.maine.gov/dps/fmo/inspections/fireworks.html

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10/06/2014 5:34 PM

I never understood the point of loud motorcycles. Supposedly it's for the safety of the rider, to warn people that a motorcycle is approaching. But 90% of the noise is behind the bike, not in front of it. If the exhaust pipes were pointed forward, that argument might have some merit - but they don't, so it doesn't.

The only thing that noise does is shatter the peace I try to enjoy on a lovely autumn day, here in the mountains where I live.

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10/06/2014 7:07 PM

...and a properly tuned vehicle will get as much if not more power with a muffler!

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10/07/2014 8:18 AM

Believe me, the loud pipes on motorcycles will get the attention of other drivers long before the visual. I always thought that some bikes were a little to loud until my son bought a road bike with loud pipes. The very first time I rode the bike I noticed people looking for the source of the noise, I never experienced that on the stock bikes that I had owned. When riding a large bike the last thing you want is to have to make a split second avoidance of another vehicle. I have started to pullout in front of automobiles that blended with the surroundings and the same with motorcycles but never when it was a loud motorcycle. Anything that can help protect a rider I will tolerate much better than more Carnegie on the roads.

Tolerant of loud pipes.

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10/07/2014 9:43 AM

"I never understood the point of loud motorcycles."

Ooohh, how to answer this and not violate the CR$ language rules, or my own rules about language on public boards.

You see, when some bikers feel that, deep down, they're 'not really much of a man,' they'll do things to compensate. They'll start working out so their chest, arms and legs get huge, they'll grow big, bushy 'mountain man' beards, they'll start wearing black leather EVERYTHING, and they'll get louder motorcycles, all to draw attention away from their 'shortcomings.'

You see the same thing in car drivers too, big, loud, flashy, expensive cars, all designed to say, 'Judge me by my ride, not my pants.'

I hope this helps, I've tried to get to the 'meat' of the matter while staying 'short' of being vulgar or obscene. I hope my post is able to 'measure up' in the way that the riders of loud bikes and flashy cars are afraid they don't.

You know what would make a good soundtrack for this post, some Little Richard.

(This post feels so wrong, like hearing the kids in the schoolyard talking about Balzak, Shiitake Mushrooms, and Lake Titicaca, just to get the teachers riled up but unable to do anything to the kids.)

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10/07/2014 10:41 PM

On your theme an ad was made to try and reduce the incidence of loud cars/bikes driven in a manner that is best described as 'showing off'. The ad featured a driver 'showing off' in front of two good looking girls. One of the girls turned to the other and just crooked her little finger. They then had a good laugh and the 'show off' went away embarrassed.

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10/07/2014 10:22 AM

I agree.

The statement about people hearing loud bikes is not accurate. If you are in a car with the radio on, AC going you are not going to hear a motorcycle until it is within a few feet, unless wind/acoustic conditions are perfect.

People look at loud motorcycles usually to stare daggers of hate at them for being too loud.

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11/01/2014 9:43 PM

I live in rural Virginia where most of the roads are two lanes. We get lots of motorcycle tourists through here all summer long. They all run both low and high beams all day long, but sometimes those loud exhausts are the first thing you are aware of. I'll willingly put up with a bit of noise if it contributes to my, and their safety. BTW: They make lousy hood ornaments.

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10/06/2014 8:02 PM

Arizona bowed to the industry lobbyists too. Money talks. Fireworks can be sold during many periods during the year. Used? Maybe, maybe not. Depends on the city. Dumb is as dumb does, I guess.

The argument that loud pipes make safe bikes is BS! Loud pipes are strictly an ego trip. Just like those FLAMING bass sound systems in cars.

I see no way this $10,000.00 fine will ever be enforced.

I'd rather see an open season on dullards who pump 110dB bass into their ears and the cars around them. I'd even buy a license for that.

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10/06/2014 8:30 PM

Not to mention that the loud pipes cause a fatigue factor as far as I'm concerned, I've ridden buddies bikes that have straight pipes and I couldn't wait till the next rider change I found it very tiring.

I have owned many cars with loud pipes but they were track only vehicles, I owned a 9.5 second drag truck that was street legal in every sense of the word and it was quiet until I stepped on the loud pedal hard but I tried NOT to do that unless I was at the track.

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10/07/2014 10:46 AM

Citizens then turned their attention to something apparently more annoying than a three-day firecracker binge: loud motorcycles.

Yes, they are addressing Harley Riders

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