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European Legislation Could Ban Sales of Vintage Military Vehicles

Posted April 25, 2016 12:15 PM by dstrohl

Collecting tanks and other military vehicles in Europe may soon become a pastime of the past, thanks to a proposed set of European Commission regulatory reforms aimed at fighting terrorism.

Under the European Union's existing Firearms Directive, enacted in 2008, military weapons of any sort - including those integral to historic military vehicles - fall under Category A, the same category as fully automatic weapons, which means that private citizens, collectors, and museums may not own them unless they have been deactivated.

However, following the terrorist attacks last January and November in Paris, the European Commission proposed a series of changes to the Firearms Directive designed specifically to restrict the trafficking of deactivated weapons out of concern that those deactivated weapons could become reactivated, as some were for the Paris terrorist attacks.

See how terrorism is changing the vehicle collector's market too.

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04/25/2016 8:07 PM

Terrorism is working.

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04/26/2016 9:35 AM

Yup, list like when Al'Quida destroyed those giant Buddha statues carved into the mountainside. It's an attempt to erase cultures not their own.

Only this time, they're tricking the EU into erasing their own history. First, destroy all the historic fighting vehicles, then what? Demolish Auschwitz and pretend that WWII and the Jewish Holocaust never happened?

Protect our history, protect our diverse cultures! Save the tanks! Dutch, keep dancing in the tulip fields in wooden clogs! Germans, keep drinking beer and wearing leiderhozen(1) in public! Netherlanders, keep frolicking on your nude beaches! post the videos to YouTube, show that we WILL NOT erase our cultures under the threat of extremist fundamentalism!

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  1. I know Leiderhozen is really only Bavarian fashion, but Americans tend to think Germany = Oktoberfest = Leiderhozen, when Oktoberfest itself is primarily a Bavarian festival, it's an anniversary celebration of the wedding of Ludwig I of Bavaria.
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04/26/2016 10:41 AM

Yep - sure is. I've said it before and will say it again - my POD teacher in 1968 said we needn't fear Communism, that was the big threat to Democracy then, but Fascism. We will turn to total government control to protect ourselves. It's happening. Every year we all loose some more freedoms.

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04/26/2016 10:51 AM

Yes the problems are many.....

And when politicians are envolved.... problems like this is similar to 'scope creep'.

The biggest is when the leaders do not take it seriously and down plays the actually issues as minor or even compares it to a 'JV' squad. Not realizing or hiding from the fact during our revolution, we were known as a 'JV' squad.

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04/26/2016 11:03 AM

That JV reference is absolutely brilliant rhetoric aimed right at the problem. Tell them they are second rate and they will react in a knee jerk fashion, and hopefully make mistakes. What is wrong with a war of words? For all the carnage they've created, their first line of offense is on the internet with words.

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04/26/2016 11:12 AM

What is wrong with a war of words?

Ask Jim Foley how it worked out.

And those words was to the American People. So, how can you tell when they bs'in?

Is it when their lips are moving?

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04/26/2016 5:41 AM

Yeah but Mr Obama says we should stay in the EU...
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04/26/2016 8:27 AM

Del,... you and Obama have something in common.... Obama is Confused in the USA

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04/27/2016 6:06 AM

The only reason Obama wants us to stay in is to keep TTIP on track...

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04/26/2016 6:39 AM

Typical politician, kneejerk reaction. Hurriedly scratch out a piece of legislation, that will just end up hurting an innocent group of collectors yet, in terms of actually stopping terrorist acts, will do squat. But, hey, the polis get to pat themselves on the back and say: "Look! We've done something." Makes me sick.

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04/26/2016 9:42 AM

Yeah, there should be a law, "No politician may be patted on the back, unless the patting hand is holding a dagger."

Remember, Brutus was Ceaser's closest friend, and even HE saw that career politicians need to kick this bad habit they all share, called 'breathing.'

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04/27/2016 6:30 AM

Banned-it country anyone? The issue stems from poorly deactivated eastern european AK's and Skorpion's being illegally reactivated, the UK de-ac spec is much tighter, with key parts cut away and welded actions with weld plugged barrels, often machined open underneath grips etc so not recoverable. The UK as ever will take things gifted by the EU's edicts and ban all de-ac's if they can, along with criminalising possession of basic DIY tools in certain circumstances. Those of us with machine tools will probably have to have them licenced and open to spot inspection by the Police at any time, just in case we decide to make something from scratch. Meanwhile the criminals and terrorists will continue bringing people and supplies in through Europes porous external and non-existent internal borders as before.

The recent seizure of reactivated ~20 AK's and 10 Skorpions in Kent, literal just off the boat, that had made it right across Europe is but a drop in the ocean, official estimates run to hundreds if not thousands of illegal firearms entering the UK annually, and mostly military kit, the known (white) criminals were found using intel from other criminals, terrorists not speaking English or other european languages are much harder to gather intel on...

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