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Photoshop and the Iranian Missile That Wasn't

Posted July 10, 2008 3:15 PM by Steve Melito

Yesterday, Iran's Revolutionary Guard released an image of a missile test that news agencies around the world are now claiming was digitally-altered. The photo below was released originally by Sepah News. The sections circled in orange and red are the handiwork of the New York Times.

Does the Revolutionary Guard own a copy of Adobe Photoshop? Earlier today, Agence France-Presse retracted its publication of the Iranian image, claiming it was "digitally altered". The fourth missile "has apparently been added in digital retouch to cover a grounded missile that may have failed during the test," the agency said.

Here's what the New York Times had to say about the Iranian missile that wasn't.

"As the above illustration shows, the second missile from the right appears to be the sum of two other missiles in the image. The contours of the billowing smoke match perfectly near the ground, as well in the immediate wake of the missile. Only a small black dot in the reddish area of exhaust seems to differ from the missile to its left, though there are also some slight variations in the color of the smoke and the sky."

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07/10/2008 3:42 PM

I suppose they weren't going to put up with a third day of falling oil prices.

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07/10/2008 4:03 PM

The NYT failed to give credit to the person that discovered and disclosed the doctoring, Charles Johnson.

I suspect the 4th digital created missile is actually a secret weapon to destroy virtual tanks.

What do I think? What's the fuss? Nations and armies have been doing this for thousands of years. This one was just a poor amateur job of it.

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07/11/2008 6:47 AM

I'd just like to point out that all KrisDelTM virtual products are actually immune to attack by virtual missiles. We also test them by driving a virtual tank over them.

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07/11/2008 12:10 AM

The Art of War is based on deception-Sun Tzu.

Maybe they should change professions, like build instead of destroy. They seem to lack a certain complexity at this.

Of course a enemy to bind the population make for easier control of the masses in the name of national security.

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07/11/2008 4:24 AM

We learned from our nation TV station this news. After contrast, it indeed has many similar places as follow.

this may be nature coincidences. or only a game by some students.

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07/11/2008 5:39 AM

I question whether the entire Iranian nuclear program isn't a hoax .

In news footage it shows allot of equipment cobbled together and unprotected people handling vials of dangerous materials with labels .

I question if they are faking there whole "program" to simply leverage world politics.

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07/11/2008 7:25 AM

That wouldn't surprise me; the whole Iraqi nuclear weapons thing was a farce. We just needed a reason to go in there and stop Suddam from exporting his oil. We NEEDs a reason to go into Iran and blow their asses away BEFORE Chaney and HIS administration leave the White House. Oh boy oh boy oh boy.....crimey. Oh, oh, let's not forget N. Korea, let's get them too.....and oh, yeah, Venezula, don't forget about them................uh, who else? We probably have a couple National Guard guys hanging around that haven't had their lives ruined yet......maybe.

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07/11/2008 9:04 AM

Missed the news report the other day about more than 500 tons of yellow cake uranium recently shipped from Saddam's nuclear center to Canada, did ya??? Google "Iraq yellow cake Canada"

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07/11/2008 9:08 AM

Didn't miss it. Figured it was some more disinformation. Actually, I am sorry I responded to this whole thing the way I did, what with NSA monitoring everything. I expect a knock at my door at any............what.................

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07/11/2008 10:33 AM

A cynic from Hell. You deserve what you get.

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07/14/2008 1:48 PM

what an idiot. I was in the National Guard and am proud of this. Have not had my life ruined, but have helped save yours.

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07/14/2008 2:09 PM

I would like to be the first here to honestly say thank you for your service, sir!

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07/14/2008 3:05 PM

Please, I can't stand back and let someone be called an idiot over this. I am a U.S. Navy, Viet-Nam vet, and the so-called reasons for us to have invaded Iraq are flimsier than the ill-thought rationale for us being in southeast Asia back in the '60's-'70's. Your life may not have been ruined, but many have been, and I do not consider the reasons to be sufficient. I will gladly second the thanks for your service, but I will never believe any of you should have gone to Iraq the second time. Once should have been enough, and it was Afghanistan that harbored Al-Quaida, not Iraq, when they attacked us. They and the Taliban operated as our foes; Saddam was a minor-league thug who, while as deserving as Al Capone of a thug's fate, posed no threat beyond his borders when we pushed him out.

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07/14/2008 3:12 PM

All of which are your opinions, which you are surely entitled to.

I just happen to disagree with all of them, including your opinions for our vacationing in sunny Southeast Asia.

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07/14/2008 3:26 PM

We must've almost crossed paths. Sept. '67 - Nov. '69, and after 3 weeks in-country (went there gung-ho as Hell!) I was asking myself what in the world we were thinking of being there. Still don't have an answer to that one, but it sure as heck wasn't the "domino effect" I was told it was. Yeah, opinion - and I know exactly what those are like, but the commies didn't run rampant, and the Iraqi's wouldn't have either. But some of the bad guys might, the Al-Quaida ones we aren't pursuing very hard from all appearances. We should have gone into Afghanistan. We should NOT have gone into Iraq, simple as that...

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07/14/2008 3:47 PM

Thank you for your service, too! That goes for the other vet who responded to you as well.

Well, the idea you postulate about Iraq is a little simplistic if you feel the reason we went in was due to Saddam. The actual reason for invading Iraq is strategic and encompasses a much, much broader scope.

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07/14/2008 4:07 PM

You're quite welcome - and I hope you are quite correct. So far, I've seen nothing of strategic value in it. Not for us, anyway - but a lot that advances the goals of those in the region who do not like us. We shall see...

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07/14/2008 4:43 PM

Already we see dividends.

  1. Libya has renounced terrorism
  2. North Korea is now willing to back down
  3. Al Qaeda is starting to crumble badly
  4. Democracy is starting to take root in Iraq

This is a pretty incomplete list, but what is happening in Iraq is putting huge pressure on Syria and Iran (among other nations). Both of these countries have been working overtime to try to thwart Iraq's run for democracy tooth and nail. And for good reason, too. Both Syria and Iran see the handwriting on the wall for their stranglehold on power over their people. Already unrest is brewing within Iran. You don't hear about it much, but it is very likely that change in Iran will come from within.

We tend to react over the public rhetoric that is broadcast by governments, special interest groups, and by the media. It is easy to think in these terms, but there is a lot going on behind closed doors. What is said publicly is simply designed for public consumption and often has little to do with reality.

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07/14/2008 5:15 PM

At the risk of being repetitive (which worries me not a bit), I sure do hope you are right!

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07/11/2008 4:59 PM

It's good to question. However, Muhammad Al-Baradei, the UN Director for IAEA, who is not a fan of the US, has admitted that Iran not only has the will, but the capability to produce a nuclear weapon in no less than 6 to 12 months.

First, that is his minimum estimate of the time it takes to get into the "Nuclear Club". However, that isn't years, that's months.

Here is the interview with Muhammad Al-Baradei, which is suspiciously absent from the mainstream press. This same interview is available from many, many other sources.

A nuclear Iran would be a very destabilizing agent in the Mid East, let alone with the terrorist underground.

Hoax? Good question, but if some fanatic pulled out a pistol and pointed it at your head (or your family), would you call his bluff?

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Muhammad Al-Baradei, the UN Director for IAEA, who is not a fan of the US,

Tell me who at the UN is a fan of the US.

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07/11/2008 7:29 PM

Zalmay Khalilzad. That's one in a row, eh?

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one in a row, so what would you call two in a row.........a streak

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A miracle...

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"unprotected people handling vials of dangerous materials"

That is one part of an Iranian nuclear program that wouldn't surprise me as being totally true.

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07/11/2008 8:01 AM

For those that are interested, here is what appears to be the un-doctored photo of the famous "Four Missile-teers".

This picture is from The Lede. The original picture was obtained by Agence France-Presse from the Web site of Sepah News (the media arm of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard). That picture was removed and the Associated Press said it got the picture above from the same website.

My guess is that the little nichrome wire fell out of the Estes model rocket engine and it failed to ignite.

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07/12/2008 11:56 AM

This brings up a challenge to those with too much time on their hands, take some model rockets and model trucks, and build a scene that looks real with the rockets launching. Get good at it and sell the video to third world country's, maybe a RC jet air force too !

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07/14/2008 9:24 AM

As a classicist, I think that they should stencil "Capricorn" on the side of each of the model rockets...

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sounds like a good idea....i am working on a model of a ICBM design that i created called the KALMARAD.....the first model of the kalmarad that i created on me actually exploded when i wasnt expecting it to......all it did was blow down a few trees......and it was about 50-60 ft tall....this model of the kalmarad is expected to be about 100-150 ft tall......and hopefully it will not explode on me this time

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"Reality Imitating fiction"

Wasn't there a movie a few years back starring I think it was Dustin Hoffman where the US political leaders hired him as a special effects producer to create a factious war to distract the internal problems.

Maybe Hollywood should think about what kind of movies they produce? instead of giving ideas to these kinds of people.

Another instance with how they got the idea from "Black-hawk Down" plans.

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07/14/2008 1:32 PM

I think it was "Wag the Dog" but I didn't see the whole film.

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07/11/2008 3:06 PM

What do I think? I think they may have had 3 missiles that worked. One of my biggest complaints EVER is the sale of our military technology (or any major power's) to nations that haven't developed their own. Who in their right mind would sell a gun to someone who might use it against them? Other than the local pawn shop owner, of course, but I'm talking about BIG weapons like missiles, helicopters, fighter jets, etc. All too often we've seen these sales made to noncommittal nations who, three years later, express undying hatred for us. And this makes sense because...???

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07/14/2008 1:37 PM

EnviroMan,

That was my initial take, as well. I don't care that they doctored the photo or that they use photoshop more poorly than American high school students.

I am more concerned that they can successfully launch 75% of their intended payload into the air. It doesn't have to travel very far to cause World War III in that region.

With the U.S.'s close ties to Israel and Israel's recent aggressive defense, just one of those missiles could start a turn of events that would by cataclysmic.

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Cool, now I can have a nuclear test in my backyard.

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yeah.....go ahead and try.....i dont want to say the results of what would happen....and i am also looking for a fuel mix to go with the new model of the Kalmarad.......and i am going to need a lot of it

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07/17/2008 2:00 AM

There is more going on then just a missile test. Check out these two links.

http://mysticalnights.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=310

Video is long about 90 mins but check the facts the guy is talking about.

http://mysticalnights.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=204

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Interesting links. I did not have time to go through them in detail, but the Iran Oil Bourse is not a new thing. It was created years ago and went in effect in late February of 2008. Their aim was to trade in anything but US Dollars.

My guess is that it will affront the two other major oil bourses (New York Mercantile and the International Petroleum Exchange), but not in a major way.

It is another attempt by Iran to poke a stick in the US eye.

We will see how it goes. It is not a good thing to have to deal with when the US economy is barely growing and could act as another drag on the economy, but I rather doubt that it will drive us into a deep recession or depression.

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I dunno, I find it kinda depressing...

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07/17/2008 2:26 PM

Don't be. I just got word that there was a mistake in OPEC's estimation of world demand and that they have over-pumped. If true, the net impact will be some pretty drastic cut backs in price, but it probably won't be for a few months until it trickles down to the pumps.

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07/17/2008 3:43 PM

Yeah, pardon me while I don't hold my breath! My guess is the price will drop maybe a dime along about the middle of September, then creep up again as the heating season comes upon us. By New Year's there'll be a net rise of a quarter or so.

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"Yeah, pardon me while I don't hold my breath!"

Good thing and don't let anyone tell you that you will be reducing your carbon footprint if you do hold your breath.

Looks like the bottom is finally falling out on the Global Warming myth. Now the APS (American Physical Society) is reversing its stance on Global Warming. Read this.

So, you may need more heating oil than you planned, but then again, we live in Florida.

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Dear Anonymous Hero, Good link and good answer.

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Yes, and WE have a heat pump, so won't need the oil here.

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07/18/2008 7:16 AM

Interesting - haven't heard of Lord Monckton, but he seems to be credentialled. Well, there's room for debate, certainly, but little time for response if he's wrong. Me, I take a conservative approach - better safe than sorry, especially on a global scale.

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Re: Photoshop and the Iranian Missile That Wasn't

07/28/2008 11:21 PM

Dictators often pretend to have weapons and programs that they don't really have because they are megalomaniacs. Saddam Hussein pretended he had WMD and that he was well on the way to nuclear weapons research. Some WMD was found, but most of it escaped into Syria. Despite the obfuscation spread by anti-Bush people, there was yellowcake uranium in Iraq under Saddam and he was planning to make nuclear weapons. Kyoto's bigotry is showing if he cannot accept reality due to having frozen his mind into a set position.

Iran will do the same sort of pretense. Fake photos of a success make them seem more dangerous than real photos of a failure and it is cheaper to make fakes than redo the whole test firing.

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07/29/2008 8:02 AM

That's right - MUCH cheaper to make fake photos. And most of the world's people will never have a clue they ARE fakes!

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