Man Noticed This Abandoned Hangar But What's Inside Caught Him By Surprise

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Interesting about the simularities, people thought that the Russians stole plans. But in reality, the finish design was design and tested separately by both the united states and the USSR but both came to the same conclusion for the final design.

I personally experienced that this can happen, but not on such a grand scale.

"Nov. 4, 1997 - When U.S. space shuttles started linking up with Russia's Mir space station in 1995, both sides owed a small debt to the old Soviet secret police, the KGB. According to documents obtained by NBC News, it was the KGB that successfully stole the U.S. shuttle design in the '70s and '80s.

That theft permitted the Soviet Union to build its own carbon copy of the U.S. system, called the Buran, thus unintentionally laying the groundwork for the compatibility between the U.S. and Russian systems..."

nbcnews/how-soviets-stole-space-shuttle/

I stand corrected...

I had understood, that it was only the outside configuration that each (the US and USSR) had design it separately, and that was the reason the outside geometry came out looking very similar due to each coming to the same conclusions, (aerodynamically speaking).

Far too much similarity to reach the same conclusions. Russians have stolen US/European secrets for decades. The copying of Concorde by the Russians was well documented by the French. An employee at Sud-Ouest Aviation was caught red handed with the drawings. "Sergei Fabiew went undetected for 15 years and supplied the soviets with thousands of sensitive documents." There's plenty more of that, if you are interested. They even had the audacity to rush it into service before it was ready just to beat the West. And it was a complete flop. Buran seems to have taken the same path.

I think we call that Karma.

The spying even went more crasy than a 007 film could be scripted: The french secret services figuered it out and discovered who it was. They reorganised the teams so that this man came in a side track on the design, and let them work on principles that have proven before to be a dead end. They didn't had a clue they were busted. Due this the soviets never achieved to make their Concorde airworthy.

Yes, I remember that. The Soviets were fed with false information for years. Karma!

I also remember a certain rotten, traitorous newspaper (The Manchester Guardian) stating around 1971, that the Tu-144 was "more advanced" than Concorde because it was powered by turbofans rather than turbojets. Written by a technically illiterate "journalist" that was unaware that turbofans had to use continuous afterburning to sustain Mach 2, with consequent excessive fuel consumption, reducing it's range to about 1/3 of Concorde's.

I've seen the Air and Space Museums both in Washington DC and Seattle; this is every bit as intriguing.

That's says a lot, I enjoyed the Museum in D.C.

Its a shame to see that much effort, time, design and materials go to waste.

imitation is the best form of flattery

Sincerest.

If it was a movie with Bruce Willis, he would have had one of them running and on a makeshift launch pad hours after finding them.

On the serious side - absolutely amazing!

everyone stole from Tesla or he gave it away.

AMAZING!!!!

probably Elon might find this interesting to complete.

I see three museums:

• The space craft (plural)
• Cranes and lifting hardware -- spreaders, etc.
• Work platforms

Great stuff! Too bad there is no market to justify maintenance.

I had the privilege of working with a Russian immigrant who worked on the Buran project.

I only found this out shortly before my retirement, when I asked him where he learned so much about cryogenics, and their effects on different materials of construction.

I hope that his e-mail address hasn't changed, so I can send him a copy of the article linked to by Usbort and the comments noted by dvmdsc.

I wish that I had been aware of this information while we were co-workers, lunch times would have been much more interesting and educational.

Funny about these Russian immigrants....

I designed process equipment for the dairy industry, At a large dairy organization with plants across the United States, I work with a Project engineer who was Russian. After work a group of us went out, (He loved his martini's) and he was talking that he immigrated to the States in the late 70's early 80's.

He was a Weapons Engineer, worked on Russian ICMB's but he couldn't get work in his field here because of security, so he became an engineer at a Cheese plant.

I told him, I can see the connection.

(Btw, I went home early that night, and at 2:30 in the morning I got a call to pick him up at the cop shop. There a story line behind that, but I would bore you)

My former co-worker responded to my e-mail and informed me that although he had been to the Cosmodrone on numerous occasions the hangar was off-limits to all but certain personnel.

Despite the dirt and bird droppings, he enjoyed seeing the pictures.