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Plumbing Help Please

01/10/2018 4:27 PM

I am trying to repair a Delta urinal flush valve(replacing the vacuum breaker). I do have the parts, but it appears that a special tool may be required to dismantle the unit. It appears to be an 8 point screw very similar to a torx which is only 6 point. Anyone out there know where I can source the tool?? My on line search has been futile so far.

Thanx in advance.

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Re: PLUMBING HELP PLEASE

01/10/2018 4:36 PM

Trust me on this, I've been there.

Call Delta customer support. I was having trouble removing a faucet to replace it. No way to see the locking/capture mechanism.

I called and the young lady I spoke with was super patient and knowledgeable.

She directed my to the drawing I needed and stayed on the line with me.

I give them an A+ for customer service.

DELTA CUSTOMER SERVICE HELP LINE

1-800-345-DELTA (3358)

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01/10/2018 4:47 PM

Thanx. I will do so, but in the mean time my search continues.

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Re: PLUMBING HELP PLEASE

01/10/2018 7:22 PM

At a pinch, a flat screwdriver blade resized and sharpened on the sides to fit will work effectively on torx and scrulox screws if they are not overly tight.

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01/10/2018 9:15 PM

Your starting to sound alike "tcmtech" Good or bad, it's balls to the wall and stand in my way because I won't listen anyhow

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01/10/2018 10:46 PM

How does it feel to only be semi-literate?

Your (you are, or you're) starting to sound alike (alike) "tcmtech"(Period) Good or bad, it's balls to the wall and (did you mean "don't" here?) stand in my way because I won't listen anyhow(Period)

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Re: PLUMBING HELP PLEASE

01/10/2018 4:47 PM

Please don't get ″pissy” over this reply. But you may have to bite the bullet and buy the tool to gain access to the vacuum breaker.

If you would post the model number of the flush valve, we might be able to give more insight into how to skirt around the problem. But, it still seems that it would a tool you'll need in the future if you have more urinals to deal with.

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01/10/2018 4:58 PM

I fully intend to buy the proper tool. Unfortunately I do not have the model number close at hand.

I have other queries out to my normal suppliers, one of which, I hope, will be able to help me.

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01/10/2018 6:57 PM

http://www.amresupply.com/catalog/674794

..."What you need are Scrulox bits, they are square and will work in any double square slotted fastener. You can get them in a kit from most tool supplier. Link to Snap-On, But Tooltopia will have them as well.There are only 4 of them starting at 0,1,2,3"...

https://www.lawnsite.com/threads/8-sided-torx-bits-enclosed-trailer.222901/

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01/10/2018 10:44 PM

I just had to deal with the same type of screw head on a desk- a green (#1) Robertson fit perfectly! Since you're in Ontario too you probably have a couple of square drive screwdrivers around.

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01/10/2018 11:29 PM

Yes discovered that while vacationing in Quebec last year and went to purchase some small brass screws to secure some loose trim in the RV. The RONA store in Rimouski only sold small screws with the square drive so I had to purchase a #0 square drive screwdriver as well.

Some older deck screws used the #3 Robertsons before the Torx versions became more popular. I still have those #3 bits.

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01/11/2018 6:42 AM

I have this and have found it quite useful at times saving me from trips to the hardware stores. May upgrade to this.

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01/11/2018 8:18 AM

I have the set as well. Problem I have is that I am not the first one to work on this one and a green Robbie just won't catch. Looks like I may have to break out my screw extractor set although I was hoping I wouldn't have to.

Thanks all for the posts but I think I have it covered from here.

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01/11/2018 3:25 PM

Try screwing clockwise first, sometimes tightening will loosen stuck on oxides and corrosion, then you can get it broke lose. Also try the hair dryer trick. Things get bigger when they heat up, 'nuff said.

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01/11/2018 3:23 PM

Well done sir!

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01/11/2018 3:14 PM

https://www.amazon.com/Xcelite-Scrulox-Screwdriver-Blade-Length/dp/B004UNGF0M

You mean that? Scrulox?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_screw_drives

Yours sounds like a so-called "double square" head, so you either need that or a perfectly sized square drive bit.

Try this search term to see if a vendor near you has these: "double square drive bit"

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