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New Delta Strain of COVID hits China Port. Should we be Worried?

06/09/2021 3:00 AM

This morning, I heard something that made me feel concerned. One of the busiest ports in China has been hit with the Indian strain of Covid, named Delta. They say it's extremely contagious with reports saying they've tracked the China infection to a restaurant. The news said that people were over six feet apart and they still contracted the virus. The news also said that vaccinated people are affected by this new strain. And they're very concerned, because the symptoms are much more mild and there are more people "walking around" asymptomatically, but they're infecting others. They government has shut down plane flights and is closing the port for three weeks. People are told to stay at home (you know what that means in China).

A few things came to mind:

1. Is this new strain coming to the US? Or is it already here?

2. Will our vaccines block it?

3. Are we headed for another shut down?

4. If this variant isn't as deadly, do we need to worry?

5. What about other variants that exist or will occur?

6. When will we be able to get back to normal with no worries of Covid?

As my mind pondered these questions, a few others came to mind:

1. Is it a coincidence that the US is investigating Wuhan Lab and this new one hits China?

2. Would the Chinese government bring in the Delta variant, to throw us off track? Would they sacrifice their own people to cover up the Wuhan Lab leak (if the lab really did create it)?

3. Is this a way to scare the Chinese people into getting vaccinated? The news story said that many of them refuse to be vaccinated.

4. Could this be a ploy to trick other in the world to get vaccinated? Scare them with another outbreak.

5. Could this be China's plan to break the US economically? Three weeks with no imports from the port = more shortages here in the US. + More inflation!

These are just some thoughts. I am not saying that the last five are true, though any or all of them could be.

So, what do you guys and gals think? Are you concerned? Will you change your lifestyle if there's an outbreak here in the US?

I'm looking forward to your posts and please no attacking others - I want this to be a place where we can brainstorm and listen to each other's ideas. As I've said before, there are a lot of smart people here and I value your input. Finally, I know there's going to be some politics thrown in, but try to keep it under control.

Thank you!

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06/09/2021 3:07 AM

I'll start.

I decided to create this thread, because I am concerned. We're less than a week from reopening here in CA and then I hear about the new Covid strain hitting China. My worry is that it'll make it's way to the US, then we'll hear about Covid cases rising and next, we'll be running around with masks and waiting for the new vaccine to come out, which prevents the Delta variant.

I want to get back to normal life. I'm getting tired of masks, social distancing, the odd feeling extending a hand for a handshake - or being on the receiving end and the poor quality of work from employees - the feeling they give you "don't complain, you should be happy I showed up".

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06/09/2021 3:28 AM

My advice is to tune out the MSM, and go live your life...You got the vaccine, that's all you can do....

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06/09/2021 1:32 PM

MSM loves a crisis. Fearmongering improves ratings.

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06/09/2021 1:44 PM

Just asked CNN,... I understand it dropped out of the top 5 cable news (lol) station...

Cartoon Network has better ratings than CNN.

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06/09/2021 3:41 PM

Far more informative too.

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06/24/2021 4:27 AM

The cartoons and comic books from the '60's were so much better than anything they offer today.Even the Bugs Bunny cartoons played classical music,and most had an adult sense of humor to them.

As Daffy Duck said,after filling a warehouse with eggs he had laid, "You never know what you can do till you Really try! Anyone know a good Proctologist?"

The comic books taught physics,and chemistry,and you didn't even know you were learning it... it was just fun.

Metal Men had all the characteristics of the metals they were made from;melting points,strengths,etc.

Superman showed how diamonds and carborundum were made.

IMHO:

The computer generated 'toons of today are worthless and teach noting except the social re-engineering agenda of the MSM.

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06/24/2021 3:45 PM

I totally agree an all counts. Even TV shows in general. Contemporary TV shows suck. They are either gruesome crime dramas or some inane 'reality' show which is anything but reality.

That's why it's either MeTV or AntennaTV for me. That was when TV shows were entertaining and funny and didn't take themselves so seriously. Nothing like a little Gilligan's Island or Green Acres to take your mind off of this woke society some are pushing on us. Not to say that they didn't address issues back then, but it was done in a more subtle way.

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07/30/2021 1:15 AM

The purpose of those shows was to make you laugh. Not to be degrading or classless like TV is today. Green Acres, I Dream of Jeanie, Hogan's Heros, Gilligan ... I love 'em!

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07/30/2021 1:12 AM

Very insightful! Who rated this as off topic! I say GA!

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06/13/2021 12:55 AM

Wow, what a disaster!

Remember Wolf Blitzer and his coverage of the first Iraq war. Desert Storm, right? All our eyes were glued to the screen as we watched our Patriot Missiles attempt to intercept SCUDs. And our battleships throwing shells the size of VW's! What an impressive show of force and we all felt patriotic as we showed the Iraqis why they shouldn't mess with us.

I just took at look at the Cartoon Network lineup for today. I don't know a single show! I've heard of Johnny Bravo, but never watched it.

I then looked at CNN's lineup and I know a few. Chris Cuomo, Wolf Blitzer, Erin Burnett and of course Anderson Cooper.

I did watch CNN on the day of the election. And a little during the Capitol Siege (or whatever we are now calling it).

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06/13/2021 8:42 AM

The smart bombs were unbelievable...

in the stores, everyone was around the electronics department watching. ‘The game’.

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07/30/2021 12:19 AM

Smart bombs were great!

And how about those Bunker busters!

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06/13/2021 8:52 AM

I do not watch CNN or Fox.Both too political.I watch BBC,DW, and other out of country news channels to get a better long range view of our current state of affairs,and what I see is not good.

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Many(MSM?) advocate disconnecting the support machinery,and sadly,the result will be the ashes of democracy placed into the

COVID is the new whipping boy for all failures;Gas prices,slow deliveries,higher prices on everything,including,and especially building materials.

COVID is the curtain.

"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."

The curtain covers a multitude of sins.

Just follow the yellow brick road.Eyes on the road..don't look around,focus on the road..you are getting sleepy..you are getting sleepy....

Inflation must increase to pay for all of the"FREE MONEY" (TANSTAAFL).

Free speech?It does not live here anymore.

It just took the last train for the coast,the music has died.

We have the illusion of being free when we go to a vending machine and select our snack.Hundreds of items to choose from.

When selecting representatives in government,only two choices;the lesser of two evils.

Free press?BAH HUMBUG!What a joke!

Just try to post a personal opinion that does not agree with the current

agenda-driven journalism on any public forum.

Not a peep will be published,or if one slips through,the individual or group will be blocked from further posts.

The water is slowly being boiled,and the frogs do not even know that they will soon be cooked and on the menu.

Our country has crested the hill,and is picking up speed on the downhill side,sad to say.

The average duration of democracies is about 200 years,and ours is on life support now.

Many (MSM?) are advocating disconnecting the life support machinery and allowing democracy to decay into ashes and the urn will be be placed into the sepulcher of the socialists' tombs,which in time, when other people's money runs out,will be eaten by the worms of communism.This too will not endure forever;it will end in eventual revolt,civil war and be replaced with another form of government,possibly a theocracy.And the beat goes on.History repeats itself.

Humankind will never learn.

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07/30/2021 12:46 AM

I hope our country remains strong and we find a way to get back to a much less crooked political system (I want to keep it realistic as we'll never get corruption out of politics).

Based on some of the things we've seen in the past year +, it seems like the leaders are raping our country - it seems like they know something is ready to burst and they're filling their pockets as fast as they can. $Trillions for me and my friends and we'll give the public a few hundred million and they'll be happy.

Our national debt is $28.5T = 128% of GDP! We have $175T in national assets (includes household assets) AND $154.4T in unfunded liabilities. $21T in the black - that doesn't feel very assuring. Here's why I feel that way. Lets shift some 0's and use a personal example. Say I have $1.75M in assets, but $1.54M in debt, so I have $210K net positive. If I sell everything and pay debt to $0 and then I retire today and find a way to get a 5% return safely, it gives me $10,500 annual income. If I'm 65 and I maximize my Social Security income, I get $34.1K per year. Total is $44.6K or $3,716 per month. Let's say I pay 15% state and federal tax, so now I have $37.9K to spend or $3,160 per month. I've sold everything, so now I have to pay rent = $2,000 per month. I still have $1,160, but now I need a car, insurance, food, utilities, cell phone, internet, etc. At the end of the month, I'm near $0 AND with inflation coming back strong, a year or so down the line and I'm negative every month = either cut back or start chipping away at my $210K.

Pretty scary stuff!

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06/13/2021 12:45 AM

Higher ratings = higher advertising dollars.

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06/09/2021 4:12 PM

Tuning out MSM is a good thing and I'm one of those who rarely watches the evening news (the only time I watch it is when I'm at the tire shop). I do watch CNBC and Bloomberg in the morning - I feel it's a good way to start my day!

My business relies on clients propensity to consume and inventory levels. When China shuts down a port, it could have an effect on my business. If the gov't shuts things down again, it'll have a big impact on our human psyche and also on the economy, again, important to my business, but this time around, it's also very important to my mental health - as you can tell, I'm very tired of Covid shutdowns! I'm not a virologist or for that matter, in the medical field, so I get information from my sources, one of which is from here - I come to this site to find out what you guys know and what you think. Being an engineer by education, I feel that quality information is important - it helps me make the best plan I can.

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06/09/2021 4:39 PM

Company where I worked, my first project I stepped into already in progress, in Salt Lake City I was the project engineer and management made numerous high risk business decisions that didn’t work out.

One being they prematurely rented a new building (100,000 sq/ft) that was being built, management signed a long term lease, to move a process line in that we outgrew.

who ever did the original CAPEX, the numbers weren’t even 1/5 to the actual costs... the project was killed, had to repurpose part of it and we used it as warehouse and sort area, We then had to out about 40,000 sq/ft to a cabinet shop?..

they got their cabinets from China... that was when Trump put an embargo on Chinese imports... the company had to shut that location down...

that was the brief explanation... it was actually worse.

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06/13/2021 1:00 AM

Hopefully, the company re-purposed the financial planner who made the 80% cost error. That's completely unacceptable!

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06/13/2021 7:50 AM

If things go as usual,he was promoted to a higher position.The Peter Principle at work.

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06/13/2021 8:44 AM

No,... they hire a scapegoat Project Engineer... put it all on him, and gave him a huge severance.

HTRN is so correct,... the The main guy, was promoted to COO, the underlines under were all given promotion.

the Project Engineer, while all this was happening, during the video conference calls, brought up some very embarrassing information.

The Director of Engineering, came about 15 minutes after the minute and said, you where pretty hard on the COO, the reply was... ‘Hard?, I told him what he needed to know, not what he wanted to know.”

The director of engineering said, well, this information maybe it’ll be best if you give it to him first, and he’ll pass it on without it being sharp. After the second report was given to the director of engineering (doe), the doe he said, you should really give this to your boss, which was the engineering manager.

there’s more details, but yes... that when the project engineer saw the writing on the wall.

the Peter principal at work.

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06/09/2021 5:34 PM

Well if your only concern is your own personal wallet then yes you should be very worried about a pandemic continuing to spread and mutate in Asia, particularly since your income is not as properly diversified as your suppliers. Buggy whip manufacturers that shunned the marital aid market either found sulky racers to stay barely liquid or they closed their shops.

Every industry has cycles of growth and collapse. These mathematicians, physicists, programmers and engineers know exactly how to turn big data knowledge into significant money returns. They allow AI to look at everything in order to keep money flowing.

My point is quality information is certainly important but it only comes at a price. A free blog site where anyone can anonymously post ideas both referenced and fantastic is not a good place to find quality information.

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06/09/2021 6:40 PM

That’s the problem, this is a blog site, and not a certified professional site.

a site where the value is an exchange of ideas and opinions... where one has to beware of anonymous posters.

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06/09/2021 7:10 PM

Hey Phoenix, I may have someone to help you get rid of your stockpile of Cobra Cordless phones and ink wells.

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I’ll wait till they make their comeback...

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06/10/2021 9:59 PM

Or, you can sell them to a museum in about 30 years! I'm keeping my record player and LP's, because someday they'll ... ummmm ... never mind.

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Ya... has anyone have a needle?

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One of the best things about this site is the people. We don't agree on things, but most of us can respect the other person's viewpoint and kindly disagree. Yes, there are some heated battles; I've been in the middle of some! But even the people I disagree with, I do respect their intelligence and their thought process. Because we are different, with different experiences, education, upbringing and ... ahem ... political and religious beliefs. Okay, I said it and we'll drop it right now.

The other thing I like about this site is that I get to listen to both the people I agree with and the ones who see things differently. The people here have been able to change my mind on some issues - they've brought new facts and a different angle of looking at things. To me, this is a very valuable part of this site and I'm glad it's here.

Anonymous posters. I understand the need for it - if something someone says shouldn't be traced to them, then an anonymous post is a good thing. I don't recommend anyone to leak something that they shouldn't - we're not that tight here and we don't know who is listening - hint, don't do it! Then there are the people who either like to cause trouble or can't stand the heat. For the most part, anonymous posters should get very little respect, in regard to the validity of their posts. If they don't have the guts to at least post their pseudonym, then I can't give much validity to their post and I won't spend much time considering what they say - they have very little impact on my decision. I hope everyone else here feels the same. Let's not let these people deter us from posting here.

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I'm sorry, but I'm very short sighted and my ONLY concern is my wallet.

I'm having trouble selling my Buggy Whips and I have far too much inventory. You seem to be sooo smart, so you may be able to help me retail them.

Maybe you can use your AI to do so. I can't trust anyone else here on the site, because it's a free blog site and only idiots post here.

Thanks for your insight.

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At least not from anonymous posters, who take a quick dump then run off into the shadows....

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06/09/2021 3:10 AM

https://vtdigger.org/2021/06/08/vermont-identifies-delta-variant-in-chittenden-county-traveler/

This from the CDC website....

...."We are monitoring multiple variants; currently there are five notable variants in the United States:

B.1.1.7: This variant was first detected in the United States in December 2020. It was initially detected in the United Kingdom.

B.1.351: This variant was first detected in the United States at the end of January 2021. It was initially detected in South Africa in December 2020.

P.1: This variant was first detected in the United States in January 2021. P.1 was initially identified in travelers from Brazil, who were tested during routine screening at an airport in Japan, in early January.

B.1.427 and B.1.429: These two variants were first identified in California in February 2021.

These variants seem to spread more easily and quickly than other variants, which may lead to more cases of COVID-19. An increase in the number of cases will put more strain on healthcare resources, lead to more hospitalizations, and potentially more deaths.

So far, studies suggest that the current authorized vaccines work on the circulating variants. Scientists will continue to study these and other variants."...

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/variant.html

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Great information Solar! Thanks for posting!

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06/09/2021 7:14 AM

All the various questions are important to consider and I hope they all receive a lot of attention. Lots of different government agencies and people of power are using this to their advantage and that is VERY DANGEROUS.

This might sound odd but we also need to come to grips with the concept that, to a large extent, the truth is that there is no truth.

Someone may have definite knowledge that COVID-19 did or did not come out of the lab. In addition, they may or may not know if it was intentional, accidental or reckless. Beyond that we have so many people/agencies looking for power, money, control, change, media clicks, etc, etc, etc, that "control" is distributed across countless people, agencies, time, distance, jurisdictions, countries, etc.

The United States has a piece of paper saying we have "Free Speech". As individuals we pretty much do have free speech. As a country our speech (mass media that controls the beliefs of many) is very biased and what we hear from our government and "experts" is typically biased too. With all the pushing and grabbing for staggering amounts of "free money", power, control, political change and the "great reset establishing socialism" there is precious little bandwidth left over for the truth.

Millions have died and there will probably be another million or more die. Understanding Covid is very important. We need to also understand that the scope and magnitude of "the other things going on" is so huge that we will forever be denied most of the truths of Covid.

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I don't like the feeling we have of not believing our media or government, but unfortunately, I think we've been here for a while and with Covid, it not only became worse, but was so blatant. To me, it feels like nobody cares anymore. Yes, I'm exaggerating, but pre-Covid, at least it felt like "they" would hide their actions. Now they're doing it in the open and the general public is falling for it. Whether it's the cry for flattening the curve (one that I actually thought was a good idea) to "testing, testing, testing", from a congresswoman who couldn't tell you if an accurate test exists, to "masks, masks, masks", however soon before our head of infectious diseases told us that we didn't need to wear them ... then months later he tells us to wear two! "They" screamed "follow the science" without understanding that you can't flip flop so fast without scientific evidence (no masks to must wear a mask to two masks). And shouldn't someone who is an expert on infectious disease know if a mask does help contain a virus? Yes, "follow the science" at first made me laugh, but when the average person on the street was saying it, it was no longer a joke and the average person now must think that science is like choosing the color of your shirt - today is a red day ... yes, I'm going to wear a red shirt today! Flavor of the day???

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06/13/2021 1:38 AM

Ooops, I was so charged up, I forgot my summary statement.

As individuals, most of us have fared pretty well during the worst pandemic of our lives - hopefully the worst that we'll ever see. The only reason we've fared well is that the government piled a ton of money into the economy in an effort to offset the lower productivity. If you don't believe it, think about the stock market in March 2021. The only reason it rebounded is the Federal Reserve dumped a ton of liquidity into the market and promised to continue until the pandemic was over and we were back to normal. If the Fed didn't take action, the market would've continued to drop and our 401K plans would've dropped. Some of us would've sold our mutual funds, causing the market to drop further. Rinse and repeat.

The government followed with stimulus packages and free money to the people, deferred mortgage payments, deferred rent, no evictions, money to employers to keep people on the payroll, etc. I am 100% certain that I would not be in the financial shape I'm in, if the Fed and gov't wouldn't have stepped in.

Those are the good things "they" did for us. The other things, such as spending $T's on their pet projects and repaying favors - and the bad part is that they gave more to their "friends" than to us! My sister called me one day and we went through the first stimulus package. I couldn't believe how much was spent on "other" things. I recommend every one here read the signed bill and see where your tax money has gone (is going). While you're at it, read the other stimulus bills - it'll make you want to cry!

So, what do we do? I think it's good to know what is truly happening, or at least know as much as we can. Then ask yourself what you as an individual can do about it. I hate to say, but your answer will be nothing. So instead of fretting over it, just understand that you're powerless against "them" and if you fight back, you're going to lose. I tell people to think of how they can "invest" to increase their returns. Or to reduce losses.

Okay, off my soapbox.

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06/14/2021 6:11 PM

We don't need to cry about the wasteful pork-barrel spending. We need to send those responsible for it packing and replace them with people who will look out for the country instead of their party. And then we need those representatives to write new legislation cancelling that pork barrel spending that hasn't been spent yet. And then listen the ninnies scream their heads off that we're killing the children and pushing grandma off the cliff.

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07/30/2021 1:05 AM

To change the "system", someone very powerful needs to take control. Someone who isn't a politician. Someone who doesn't need the money. Someone who knows how to run a business and can make difficult decisions - and base them on what's best for the country as a whole. Someone who isn't afraid to rattle cages. Someone ... Umm ... Uhhh ... Didn't we just have someone like this ... Never mind!

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06/13/2021 8:15 AM

COVID is the new whipping boy for all failures;Gas prices,slow deliveries,higher prices on everything,including,and especially building materials.

COVID is the curtain.

"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."

The curtain covers a multitude of sins.

Just follow the yellow brick road.Eyes on the road..don't look around,focus on the road..you are getting sleepy..you are getting sleepy....

Inflation must increase to pay for all of the"FREE MONEY" (TANSTAAFL).

Free speech?It does not live here anymore.It just took the last train for the coast,the music has died.

We have the illusion of being free when we go to a vending machine and select our snack.Hundreds of items to choose from.

When selecting representatives in government,only two choices;the lesser of two evils.

Free press?BAH HUMBUG!What a joke!

Just try to post a personal opinion that does not agree with the current

agenda-driven journalism on any public forum.

Not a peep will be published,or if one slips through,the individual or group will be blocked from further posts.

The water is slowly being boiled,and the frogs do not even know that they will soon be cooked and on the menu.

Our country has crested the hill,and is picking up speed on the downhill side,sad to say.

"Too bad!Too Sad! Your dad."

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06/13/2021 8:58 AM

Covid is to blame?,... no, climate change is be blamed for the administrations incompetencies...

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07/30/2021 12:50 AM

Oh my! This is the first time I heard this. Climate change has caused the influx of immigrants at our boarder?

I am very doubtful that our leaders believe this - it can't be possible! What could it be? A distraction! Watch my right hand as my left hand is in your pocket!

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07/30/2021 6:41 AM

The MSM and the politicians are the greatest prestidigitators in the universe.

Most people are watching the wrong hand,and are redirected to a alternate direction while the knife is being slipped into their Carotid.

Democracy will survive until some people realize they can vote themselves unlimited free things from the government.When this group of selfish voters outnumber the selfless ones,the economy will have become a socialist government.

Remember what happened to the USSR?

IMHO:We will soon be the USSA.(United Socialist States Of America).

I probably won't be around to see it all transpire,but I see the baby bump forming.

"Feed the consumer(cattle),keep them happy and well fed.If they get restless,give them more money,more money,more money(Novocaine)"Dam- the inflation,give them more money".

"They will not even realize they are being led up the ramp to the top floor of the slaughterhouse.Their own weight will power their decent."

"By the time the coffers run out of money,we will be gone with our golden,diamond encrusted,blood stained parachutes. The people don't matter, only WE matter."

At this stage,there is nothing we can do about it.

The frog is cooking.

Just sit back and watch a rerun of history unfold.

The names,dates,and locations have been changed to protect he guilty,but the plot is the same.

I was just born too late to see it the first time around,but anyone can get a good preview from the history books.

"Too bad,Too sad,Your Dad" (from a '50's joke)

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07/31/2021 3:10 AM

I believe that something will wake up the sheeple. Yes, the takers will keep taking - nothing we can do about it. However, I believe that the average person in the US is a good, law abiding citizen, who truly cares for our great nation. The problem is that we've been distracted (watching the wrong hand). Smart phones are an amazing invention, BUT I feel it could be the main contributor IF our country falls. OR, what most likely will happen is that our standard of living will continue to drop, with a large step down every few years (recession). People won't remember pre-recession times - we have such a short memory span! We'll be given another toy to play with, while the standard drops! As the frog contently sits in the boiling pot of water!

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07/31/2021 8:55 AM

Yet the ‘panic queens’ are silent that someone should do something. Unlike their panic response from the last administration.

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08/05/2021 12:59 AM

The media has been pretty quiet about this. I did hear something very upsetting. I posted in a different thread, but this is a good place for it. ADE - https://www.globalresearch.ca/dr-robert-malone-inventor-mrna-technology-signals-worst-case-scenario-about-covid-19-vaccines/5751798

Dr Malone is suppose to be the father of mRNA vaccines. He claims to be pro-vaccine, but he's very concerned about Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE). As the vaccine becomes less effective, the person can actually host more virus than an unvaccinated person. This will lead to more mutations (a numbers game) and more contagious and possible deadly ones. What I got out of it is that we may go through the entire Greek alphabet, before this is over!

Let's hope not!

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07/31/2021 3:20 AM

Think about this for minute.

We (as a nation) are spending a fortune on carbon emissions reduction. As far as I know, there's no proof that carbon emissions are the cause of climate change. And even if there were proof, has anyone calculated the amount we (as a planet) need to reduce carbon emissions? We have to calculate thing like burning wood for heat (done in many, many parts of the world - not everyone has a temperature controlled home! Or how about vehicles in third world countries - where the goal of the owner is to get to work and where they don't even think about emission. Or nations where cheap energy (think coal) is used to generate electricity. Do you think the user is willing to pay a premium for non coal generated electricity?

Yet we're planning to go electric, with our cars, homes (solar), etc. Battery packs in our walls or in our driveways. Electricity to charge our phones, so the next morning, it's ready for another day of watching videos, chatting, etc - there has to be data showing the amount of electricity we use for our mobile devices. Brown outs? Black outs? If we're concerned about them now, think of how much worst it'll be when 1/2 of our cars are plugged into the grid!

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07/30/2021 12:17 AM

I just had a conversation with a client today about the same thing. How is everything is the fault of Covid?

Our politicians made decisions and implemented change - they're the ones who are responsible.

Why do we have so much cash in our economy? Thank you Fed for $120B per month in bond purchases. Why is our 10 year at a real rate of -1.15%?

And what about inflation? Oh yeah, it's transitory ... been transitory for how many months? Yet the Fed keeps pumping money into the economy and artificially keeping rates down.

And of course the stock market keeps hitting new highs - has the Fed shifted it's mandate? Stable economy and full employment are the two mandates, right? How can high and rising inflation help keep the economy stable? And when we have too many people on unemployment, because it pays enough for them to stay at home vs work - can we really call this unemployment?

We're watching the world change right before our eyes and the sad thing is that there's not a thing we can do.

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06/14/2021 12:49 AM

"This might sound odd but we also need to come to grips with the concept that, to a large extent, the truth is that there is no truth." aptly describes current covid situation.

[As per news reports, numbers related to infections, active cases, deaths etc., are often revised, disputed; treatment protocols are revised, and recommended ones are discontinued eg., blood plasma therapy; origin of covid ??; vaccine efficacy numbers are changing with each new study; even the time gap between doses (covishield/astrazeneca) is revised saying it is beneficial and then there are recent statements that the revision may be counterproductive....]

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07/30/2021 12:56 AM

Vaccines are safe and effective - so we're told. They'll last at least a year! So get yours NOW!

Okay, I'll bite, but:

Why do vaccinated people need to wear masks ... at least in some parts of the country?

Why are booster shots needed?

Why aren't we vaccinated children under 12?

Why are the vaccines approved for Emergency Use?

Why is the delta variant causing our case count to grow?

Why are our hospitals starting to fill up again?

Does anyone know the answers?

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Delta variant accounts for 6 percent of new U.S. coronavirus infections

The Delta variant first identified in India is 40% more transmissible than the alpha variant first identified in Kent in the UK which is now the dominant variant world wide. Expect the Delta variant to overtake the alpha variant in the near future.

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Unfortunately, your link requires buying a subscription... what I was looking for was ok, we have the Alpha variant virus’s of Covid, and the new variant t is the Delta variant.

so, my question is, is the Beta version of COVID, would that be the variant zero born in the labs in Wuhan China?

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Maybe because I'm in the UK I get to read the Washington Post for free