Synthetic motor oil, am I wasting my money?

Just be sure you get that "piccup" out of California before you have to smog test it.

There is a huge difference between aircraft engine operation conditions and a jeep wrangler. Stay in context and your perspective may better reflect upon you.

Just drop the regular old ford oil and continue with your usual habits...

It is a bought item which is self contained with a battery and screen in the cap.

Thermocouple runs down the stick into the oil, I reckon it is just some thermister type or thermocouple, not sure.

Battery is a 20 mm flat cell like those in organisers.

A friend had bought it from Harley Davidson and paid loads of money for it as they are too expensive. He then changed gear box and could not use it anymore so I got it for a friendly price.

Nice unit.

I had hoped you had made something yourself that we might copy, now it looks like i will have to do it on my own!!!

I am sure there is not much to it when looked at. The screen would take some circuitry but that would be all.

G A 2 U

It is the method to your madness

Hey Andy,

How many Km's you put on a year? And do you get to run great speeds.

In Canada we are limited to 100 - 120 Km's depending on where we drive.

The occasional 140 or 180 does occur, but at risk of Fines and Demerit points!

Dave

I don't do as many KMs as I used to before(60,000+ per year or more), as I am mostly retired, but its usually around 30,000+ per year and I get to do 210 KMH (the maximum speed of my car!) about every week or so. I like to keep my hand in so to speak....

It sounds stupid to say it in this way, but on German Autobahns, where no limit is posted there is no limit!!!

It sounds stupid to say it in this way, but on German Autobahns, where no limit is posted there is no limit!!!

I have seen on TV that's about to change because of the high fatality and permanent injury rate...and conflict between sane and insane speeds as autobahns become more congested. (Possibly also because of the country's second to Italy reputation for bad driving? )

Firstly there has been talk of putting a general speed limit here for as long, if not longer than I have lived here, which is 27 years......they are still talking!!!

I do not know where you got the idea that Germany's road users are bad, but they did not make it into the top 12!!! maybe it was just a figment of your imagination?

This was found at the following link:-

europes-worst-drivers-revealed

Top 12 worst drivers list for Europe are:1. Lithuania2. Latvia3. Estonia4. Greece5. Cyprus6. Iceland7. Slovakia8. Italy9. Ireland10. Luxembourg11. Finland12. Malta

Easy now. I said bad driving, not bad drivers. And thanks for the statistics. My comment--in jest, don't you see--referred to years ago experiences, when the country really did have quite a reputation; and it stands to reason the government would have taken steps to correct in the intervening years. There's also the addition of the east that probably factors in; and, no doubt, the government (and people) had also take steps to curtail rampant problem with drunkenness...which would also improve the general accident rate statistic, wouldn't it?

Finally, it seems from the list you gave that inclusion of the former eastern bloc countries has helped the western countries, including Italy, move up the list.

Anyway, it was only meant in good fun. Nothing figmentary.

What you are saying is that what you said had little to do with fact, more with fiction.

If you check the statistics over the last 40 years or so, Germany (as many others have also done) has improved - less road deaths etc., but its position in the table of worst drivers has remained fairly stable......as has the driving of many other (older) European countries.

The newer countries have just taken over the "top" honors, but otherwise the placings have remained relatively stable......one country to another.....

I believe in always telling the exact truth, and when I don't know it, I keep my trap shut!!

ROTFLOL

What is it about motor oil that always brings out your true colours? Red faced and livid.

Or the truth as you see it.

You're the same as every one else. You are the only one who can see your view of the 'forest'.

Not a criticism , just a fact.

And I know you like them.

Cheers,

Stu

Dear Stueywright and previous guest post,

what you say is not quite true nor is it fair in anyway, remember, I showed the link and I posted the statistics. Nothing more nothing less.

You have criticized me for no reason, I am now going to criticize you for that reason alone, read on if you can..... I react in an unfriendly manner to such "shotgun" comments, so if you were looking for a reaction, you have one!! Lets hope it makes you a better person in the end, though I doubt that it will somehow!!!

This is a long post, so take your time in reading it and making sure that you can understand the points I am making, we don't want to see you making any further errors of judgment do we?

Remember, all you both have done is posted your "opinions"......

Please, in the future, place links to FACTS as a reasonably valid counter argument at least.

Personally I do not worry either way as where Germany is in this table of bad drivers, top or bottom, where they are is where they are so to say......that is a verifiable fact for anyone with a few brain cells and a PC connected to the web!!!

As a driver I have never been responsible for an accident (up to now at least after 45 years driving all over the world, it could of course happen tomorrow!!), but I have been in enough situations where my car has been driven into, too many times, sometimes it was just parked with nobody in it! in both the UK & German & Italy!!! So I have NOT contributed to how badly Germany (or the UK) comes in the ratings....

Even if Germany was at the top of the list, [my research has shown that Germany is middle of the road (pun intended!) for as far back as I could find statistics], I would have said just that.

For me personally the truth/facts (verifiable) are far more important to me than anyone's "opinion", my own included.....which is a further reason I post links in such cases and not my opinion....

I drive and have driven over many of the European (and many other countries outside of Europe) countries roads and I have found that Spain, Italy, Greece, Yugoslavia (as it was previously known) for example have "in my opinion only", appalling driving standards.......the verifiable facts would appear to support that to a great degree....

I have never made it into the new Baltic countries recently, so it would appear that they are even worse to be able to take over all the top spots! Not somewhere I want or need to go thank God!!

I like "verifiable facts". You (and jest/troll) appear to like "unverifiable feelings", (which is how many women work/talk - not all I might add, but most in my (unverifiable!) opinion!!), that is your personal method, I have mine and wish to stay with it.

Are you both possible females (or of the other persuasion, not that it matters really)? that could be a possible answer to this, as they tend to speak from the heart and not from the head....

By the way, I am quite proud of my "adopted" country, I know that they made some dreadful mistakes in the first half of the 20th Century, but they have paid the price and apologized many times for their failures to all concerned. It is a completely different country since then, one that I can honestly say for anyone prepared to work hard, the rewards are good......

I certainly do not need to stay here, if for example I felt that somewhere else is better, but up to now, I am of the "personal opinion" after many visits to many countries that Germany is one of the best (but certainly not perfect) places to live in.

Many other countries have made huge mistakes in the past (as Germany has also done), USA with slavery for example....some have still NOT either apologized or paid recompense with regard to their war crimes, Japan is a prime example.....and not alone.....

But at some point, one does not forget the past, but only looks to the future with the previous slate clean....

I have previously lived in Singapore, Hong Kong, Malaysia, UK, Germany all for relatively long periods of 1 year or more.

I have also had extended visits (less than one year but more than 4 weeks)to the USA, France, Holland, Ireland, South Africa, Gan, India, Switzerland to name but a few......

I have been in dozens of other countries large & small for short periods of work or sometimes play....Russia, Belgium, Finland, Norway, Sweden, Spain, Italy, Denmark, N.Africa, W.Africa, E.Africa for example.

I do feel that I can speak on such a subject with fairly good knowledge and background, although admittedly, some of the visits are more than 40 years ago.....

What do you personally have as a background to allow you to criticize me for no reason? Are you simply Jealous? Female? Frustrated? Unfriendly? Stupid?

( I should have made a single sentence there:- Are you simply a Jealous Frustrated Unfriendly Stupid Female? But that would have been a bit hard and is not really my opinion of women either!!!)

Do please answer so that the truth as to why you feel free to stoop and criticize me so easily (in your opinion at least!) can be finally known.....

I'm sorry Andy. Your answer is too long, I have conclusions to jump to. And besides my mind is already made up, and do not want to be confused with facts.

Sorry I just couldn't resist. Best regards.

Your answer speaks for itself in several ways......

Well, Andy, You seem to have 'arced up' a bit too easily for me. (Methinks he doth protest too much??)

Mine was not to criticise you, as you have at length pointed out. I really don't care if the rest of the world drives like maniacs or not. I work on the principle of 'take care of your own backyard first'. I also don't care whether you think your are a better driver that me. I'm skilled at staying out of everyone else's accidents enough to have done so for over 3 million km. FACT.

And what I actually said to you was fact, not opinion. Re-read the words again, but this time don't jump to the conclusion that I'm being critical. You are the only one who can do, whatever it is you do. ( unless of course you have sold your identity and soul to buy gas for all that good driving). Your call.

The way you have responded makes me think that you may be of the persuasion that your utterances are fact, whilst everyone else's are opinion. If I can find the time I may be open to debate on it.

I come in peace, and I shake a firm hand.

Chill out, be cool,

Cheers,

Stu.

Oh! And I don't care what oil they use.

You are reading your previous post from your point of view, I am reading it from mine, I cannot find any "fact(s)" that you feel you have brought to our attention.

Please be so kind as to pint out in your posting where the fact(s) are. We are always willing to lend an ear (or an eye) when needed.....

I still understand English fairly well but I decided to checkup on my understanding of the word Fact. Using the Oxford English Dictionary I got the following:-

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fact

• noun 1 a thing that is indisputably the case. 2 (facts) information used as evidence or as part of a report.

— PHRASES before (or after) the fact Law before (or after) the committing of a crime. a fact of life something that must be accepted, even if unpalatable. the facts of life information about sexual matters. in (point of) fact in reality.

— ORIGIN originally meaning an act, later a crime: from Latin factum, from facere 'do'.

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It would appear that my understanding of the word is correct! You supplied NO FACTS in any of your posts, well what a surprise.....

Thanks in advance.

A little re-juxtapositioning and carrying to logical conclusions, if it please thee.

I believe in always telling the exact truth, and when I don't know it, I keep my trap shut!!

If you check the statistics over the last 40 years or so, Germany (as many others have also done) has improved - less road deaths etc., but its position in the table of worst drivers has remained fairly stable......as has the driving of many other (older) European countries.

So you would have us believe that Andy has checked said statistics, as he implicitly claims, over the past 40 (or even more) years—and even before the advent of PC or Web—and even while sojourning or ensconced in near and distant foreign lands? Thus is exempt from keeping mouth shut?

Or that, because Andy said it lastly, such assent as was given previously to the same possibility of improvements deserve no better than scorn and ridicule?

The newer countries have just taken over the "top" honors, but otherwise the placings have remained relatively stable......one country to another.....

So anyone would be stupid, female, or both, not to conclude the same factual truth as worldly Andy: that until such time as "newer" countries disturbed the cosmic order, there had never existed any leaders among the relatively stable placing of countries?

And finally, are we condemned to doubt the masculinity of our our own reading comprehension if we wonder how Andy's reading of his own proffered Web source seems to have led him to understandings not, thereby, evident to others? Or wonder if he, himself, actually read and fully comprehended...that by which he had formerly so graciously endeavored to enlighten us?

As you also appear to like tp speak without the benefit of facts, I have placed here a few of the recent tables of accidents/people killed. I have older data but it is rather hard to present in a factual (nice word that!) way on a blog.

The table I have reproduced here are to be found on one of the following web sites, if you wish to satisfy yourself that they are accurate....

http://ec.europa.eu/transport/roadsafety/road_safety_observatory/trends_en.htm

or here:-

http://www.unece.org/trans/main/wp6/transstatpub.html

A simple click on a link will bring you there immediately!

As you can see, of all the countries mentioned, road deaths per million population, 40 have more deaths per million population than Germany - including the USA with its sloooow roads - and 11 have less....

This is the position in the statistics that Germany has had, give or take a few positions, till some time after the 2nd WW (exact date difficult to find, 1948 has been offered by an ex colleague), when statistics really started to be kept and compared.

I know this is not easy to read once on the CR4 blog, I hope that you can make out some of the countries names with a little effort, or ask me to email a copy to you, its not a problem, or get a copy from the second web site shown above yourself. That is assuming that you are interested in the true facts and not just opinions.....

I have ringed the statistic for each country that is higher in accident victims than Germany....there are a lot of rings!! The statistic is "Number of persons killed in road traffic accidents per million population for 2004"

Germany would be in postion 41 of 52 countries.....the USA would be in position 11 from the top, the UK will be even lower than Germany (just!) 43 or 44 or so I would guess....

The lower the position, the better the statistic for that country.....

Prior to this year (2004), the data was only published in book format.....! the books are available still if needed.

I trust that these facts are easily understandable and alleviate any further "opinions" on the matter.....as "facts" really speak for themselves!!!

Prior to this year (2004), the data was only published in book format.....! the books are available still if needed

There there, Andy. That's a good boy.

Now be a good boy again, and bring us the statistics for growth of public transportation use in Germany, vis-a-vis other countries, since WW2. After that we can talk about how facts and anecdotes, and scholastic deliberation and kidding around, are not always the same thing.

Funny (or trying to be!) is all thats left as an answer when the facts are so clearly displayed!!!

Q.E.D.

Come on Andy,

Guest made a valid point about the common methods of transportation. It would appear that most European countries have more of their populace using public transport on a daily basis than the USA. Though I haven't been there I would suspect that Germany is much better equipped with trains etc. than most of the rest of the world. In many countries (third world) much of the population walks or rides animals. Bicycles are also frequent modes of transport. How much of Germany's populace commutes that way?

I have no idea how many people ride a train in Germany to work.....why should I worry about that?

The question was, How good are the Germans with regard to driving? as I was just challenged in how badly the Germans drive cars, I think that the only reliable way is to compare accidents per million population.....

I cannot be expected to suddenly filter in all the other points as well.....I still feel that Germany can hold its head up as can the UK with even better statistics. Germany has no blanket limit, but the UK and the USA have.....!!! Quite interesting!

I said at the beginning and it was shown on the statistics that Germany has a fairly good record in comparison to other countries.......and has always had such a record.....I was able to prove my point quite adequately I feel.

I must admit that the high accident rate of the USA was quite a surprise to me.....!!! That came out, but I wasn't looking for it!!! I was only looking for the European statistics....

The USA has a real problem.....especially as most cities have good bus services but the "Monied" part of the population do not want to support the buses by using them....now that IS a problem. In the UK and Germany, people try and use the best transport available, they do not ignore cheap alternatives as the well off US citizens seem to do......

Yes Andy,

What I was trying to point out was an error in the statistics. Let's compare apples to apples.

Is there some way to compare, say, the number of miles driven per registered driver, per country, to the number of traffic related fatalities? That would probably give a better comparison.

I will say, based solely on personal experience with people of the German persuasion, that Germans on average have more of a tendancy to detail and 'doing it right' and so probably do have fewer accidents per capita than us sloppy Americans. That's just 'the nature of the beast'. Every country seems to have it's own peculiar national identity. That identity, or personality if you will, generally influences statistical sampling.

The above, once again, are my personal observations and may or may not hold water.

Shadetree,

Well said.

Water tight.

Opinion.

Bricktop=no chump

Andy=PITB

Cheers,

S.

Still pissed? how childish!!

Andy! Don't be so reactive!

Besides, I have to pee!!!

Don't let me hold you back!!!

What time of day is it where you are now?

About 11:45 PM, but I can't go until I see the next reply and your response!!!

Here it is!!!!

You really need to go to my new thread...

I was already there, it hasn't "Hotted up" enough for me yet!!!

Try then to look at the pdf documents on the web sites I posted a few posts ago.

They have sorted the statistics in many different ways, possibly also in the way you mentioned too. The documents are quite long.....

The best of the two links is then probably the second one.....

Let us know if you find anything useful in that direction....

What,

Do my own research? I'd rather you do it and then, if it fits my personal agenda, I'll adopt it. That's what all the best politicians do. I was there when Al Gore invented the internet. He got the idea from me.

USA has a problem...

Yes you are correct, too many people with no where to go going no where getting in accidents that shouldn't have happened because they should have stayed home with no where to go.

We're all just lookin' for the heart of Saturday night.

That's fruition of Fridays objective (:

You're only wasting your money if you're using it with a synthetic motor... By the way, don't cars contain engines rather than "motors?"

10-4

A very subjective question— Buy, okay, here's the real deal.

Because you have asked if you are wasting money, it follows that, yes, you are wasting money. Because only a worrier would ask, or need to ask the question, one which a non-worrier would never ask, because he would never spend money only to ask if he has wasted the money. And how do I know you are a worrier—and, thus, a waster of money? Because a non-worrier would know that to ask the question would be to get answers both ways, thus leaving him to worry even more about whether or not to continue worrying, whether about he had wasted time in addition to money, and whether if he changed, he would not still be wasting money, perhaps even more money that he was originally worried that he might be wasting. On the other hand, you could always decide to stop worrying about the money you already wasted, and then worry about how else you might have wasted the money. Or you could just not worry and convince yourself that the money you wasted was money well spent.

All I worry about is why they do not register or if they are already, who the hell they are

Guests being clever cloggs again, you just have to hate them don't you.