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Energy Breakthrough For Cars?

Posted November 29, 2010 7:39 AM

Between the recent 100-mile-per-gallon X Prize and the introduction of the electric Chevy Volt, efficient cars have been in the news lately. What do you think will drive the "killer app" of energy-efficient cars: better fuel-cells (hydrogen fuel cells?), better batteries, or smarter systems running conventional combustion engines? (Or is driving a car the wrong answer altogether?)

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11/29/2010 9:27 AM

Gosh, it's so rad to know some dude still uses the phrase 'killer app'. Gotta wonder if he's still running Lotus 1-2-3 on his IBM PC.

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11/29/2010 11:02 PM

At least he put it in quotes - kind of acknowledging that it was a misuse of the term.

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11/30/2010 12:15 AM

NASA had created an alkaline fuel cell that generated great amounts of power (at that time) but it was very expensive. It is back NOW at Apollo Energy Systems and DOE, DARPA and some hefty foreign auto makers are looking at their LEAD FOAM battery and AFC that uses an ammonia cracker front end. Over 190 patents and gaining funding. www.electricauto.com The lead foam battery makes a joke out of the fire prone lithium ion, with better cost, nearly twice the life, fast charge rate, same weight and one quarter the cost.

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11/30/2010 1:41 AM

This is nearly a thread

I know for a fact that minutes of work went into the writing

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11/30/2010 8:57 AM

You sound disappointed.

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11/30/2010 3:18 PM

I'm completely underwhelmed

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11/30/2010 2:50 PM

X prize VLC was about weight reduction with strength of shell (safety) taking a back seat. Not too radical, see Lotus.

Reduced weight will be critical.

Reduced acceleration rates will be critical, as reduced HP means less weight/fuel

electricity into torque is hard to beat, so I would venture 4 electric motors, 4 wheel drive (traction control) 4 wheel braking (ABS and regenerative) small capacitor storage for acceleration, steady state RPM Internal Combustion generator for high efficiency, and maybe a small fuel cell (fully configured for charge/discharge, which is not on the market)

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12/14/2010 10:19 AM

I think the "killer app" will be the perfection of the flux capacitor!

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