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Disc Degeneration in Dogs - Surgery (Part 3)

Posted May 28, 2008 12:01 AM by SavvyExacta

It's time to head to the hospital for surgery. Pack an overnight bag and include a stuffed animal. But wait, I'm talking about my beagle here! Bonnie, age seven at the time, was scheduled for surgery to alleviate the pain caused by two damaged discs in her neck. For details on her diagnosis, see Part 1 and Part 2 of this series.

The prognosis for the $2,500 procedure was good. The vet believed that Bonnie would gain relief from most of the intense pain and be able to walk normally again. In addition, most of the signs of paralysis caused by the pressure on her spinal cord should disappear. We were warned, however, that we'd need to be "careful" with her for quite awhile post-op. Any traumas to her spinal column could trigger a relapse.

Bonnie's surgery consisted of shaving the right side of her neck and creating an incision to remove the disc fragments. Small holes called "windows" are drilled in each vertebra adjacent to the damaged disc in order to facilitate the removal of the disc matter. Bonnie's situation was more precarious than anyone had originally thought. Her spinal cord was displaced as well! Fortunately, her very capable veterinary surgeon performed the procedure and stapled her back together. A model patient, she came home a few days later.

Our instructions were to keep Bonnie as still and quiet as possible. This included only short walks on a harness as well as limiting her barking. (Beagles tend to raise their noses to the sky when they bark.) Of course, anyone who has ever had a beagle knows that this is no easy task! Bonnie loves to bark for her supper and spend hours sniffing around the yard. She also likes to jump on and off the couch. Even so, we were able to limit her adventures by keeping her on a leash and creating "steps" for her to access the couch.

Bonnie healed well. About a month post-op, she was able to take 20-minute walks on a leash, even though she didn't have the old spring in her step. Still, she was also much happier, could look up at us instead of down at the floor, and showed interest in playing with her toys again (especially her favorites: the Big Mean Kitty and her stuffed skunk). Post-surgery, Bonnie remained medicated on a lower dose of Rimadyl to manage inflammation and pain.

So is surgery always the best answer? Not necessarily. For some pet owners, the expense is just too much, especially when a second procedure may be necessary. In these cases, medication can be tried first, but euthanasia might be the kindest option for the pet. Likewise, it may be the only option in more severe cases.

What if surgery doesn't work? Find out next week, when I describe Bonnie's recurring symptoms and what I did about them.

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http://cal.vet.upenn.edu/projects/saortho/chapter_62/62mast.htm

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05/29/2008 8:12 AM

And in the meantime people are going to bed hungry while millions are spent on animals because they are "pets."

This is some of the most perverse thinking on the planet.

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05/29/2008 8:27 AM

Would you spend a few thousand dollars to save a member of your own family that you love or do the same for someone you don't know? That's usually why a person chooses a surgery like this for their pet. Bonnie is like a "sister" to me - we grew up together.

People have different levels of relationships with animals. I grew up as an only child with various types of pets and farm animals (and wild animals in the woods) to hang out with. Therefore I'm able to bond with them pretty easily. My grandmother, on the other hand, also grew up on a working farm. She dislikes animals of all kinds (although tolerates my dogs because they're well behaved) because she was forced to care for them.

Additionally, my feeling is that animals can't do so much to help themselves as people can. Since we domesticated animals, it's up to us to help them.

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05/29/2008 11:41 AM

There are levels of help and then there is over the top, expensive and unnecessary. I grew up in farming country although not on the farm. There was no doubt that animals were animals and people were people. There wasn't any blurring of that line. So while I would agree that all animals should be humanely treated and cared for there becomes a point where an emotional attachment to an animal overrules rational thought. If my sisters had given the money they spent on hip replacements and knee surgury, etc. for their various pets they could have saved at least 50 kids from starvation through Christian Children's Fund or a similar charity. Instead fido got a new hip for $7000 and some poor kids starved. Go figure.

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05/29/2008 12:29 PM

Perhaps your sisters (and others) feel that it is their responsibility to do whatever is necessary (within financial means) to help the animals in their "care"?

Likewise, your sisters (and others) may feel that the others in need should be taken care of by their own (whomever is responsible for them). I'm not creating anyone's opinion here or saying how it should be; just stating a likely option.

To use an unrelated example: I can't stop pollution in China, but I can be sparing with the electricity in my own house and be more careful about planning errands/trips with my car.

Back to what you call "expensive and unnecessary". If these procedures were not performed on the animals, the only other humane alternative would usually be to put the animals down so they would not suffer. (Unfortunately, some pet owners who cannot/will not opt for the procedures just let the pet "go" as long as they can anyway.) In some cases, the "expensive and unnecessary procedures", despite their costs, are relatively "simple" fixes that can bring animals more or less back to or better than normal.

I feel that if someone has the means to help an animal prolong its life in such a way the expense is well worth it. Animals are very valuable, even if they are not used to "earn their keep" as in days past. Many studies have been performed to show that they reduce human stress and are valuable companions who truly do become members of the family. If you are not of that school of thought (that such a pet is difficult to replace and measures should be taken to treat it as such) then nothing I can say will change your mind - so there's no point in arguing about it.

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05/29/2008 1:09 PM

It's not much of an arguement. You are saying that you place the well being of an animal companion above the life of a child, perhaps one in a foreign country, perhaps one where the circumstances make it impossible for "their own" to meet the obligations due to disaster or illness or some other issue.

The discussion of pollution in China vs. saving energy here seems to be sophistry There is no US organization to fight pollution in China. On the other hand money does travel across borders easily and there are organizations that are set up to make sure that aid is given anywhere it is allowed.

It is my position that there comes a point where spending thousands to replace a hip in a dog that probably cost approximately $500-$800 is poor logic given that the same money could also feed a starving child. How the money is spend is simply a matter of which you value more.

From the point of view of the starving child your position is indefensible. Which is probably why you can't debate it further.

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05/29/2008 1:15 PM

I suppose my point is that I see my dog in my house every day, suffering and in pain. I know that my dog likes to make me smile and would do anything to defend me (because mine have proven that). Perhaps that's why I am more than willing to provide for my own animals than people that I've never met. Although, if I had the means, that's not to say I wouldn't help out as many people as I could. Unfortunately, I, like the majority of the population, have been unable to start the type of business to make a fortune and be "made of money" to do so.

That being said, the point of this blog entry was to inform people about surgical techniques for dogs - not to provide a forum for a person's disagreement about which is more ethical.

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05/29/2008 4:06 PM

"How the money is spent is simply a matter of which you value more."

Well said, ca1icocat.

Still, I think it's important to note that SavvyExacta is NOT saying that feeding starving children in other nations is value-less. That's why I want to make that point in the author's defense. Accusing her of not caring about starving children would be sophistry, too. So that's why I'm confident this "you don't care about children" stuff will end.

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Who do yo think you are?! I hope you rot in hell for what you posted here. You will have to answer to God one day as to why you think about and treat the animals that he made the way that you do. My animals mean as much to me as my kids. They have feelings, personalities and feel pain. They never asked to be born. They deserve to be treated with love, kindness and respect...unlike you. Who says those starving kids deserve any more than an animal who is suffering in pain every day and just wants to make their owner happy? Ok I am done. You don't even deserve the time I gave you on here. You are the reason I love some animals more than people!

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Hello! I am with you! My dog is my baby and I spent the money to save him. If you are not a pet lover, then you would not understand!!! I am with you!!! I lvoe my pet like a child and I will do what I need to do (not asking anyone else for help) to save him. :P

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05/29/2008 3:15 PM

"Disc Degeneration in Dogs" is an aprapo topic for a blog labeled "Animal Science", on an engineering/technical website.

0% engineering, 0% facts, and 100% moral demagoguery and self-righteous opinion posts are not.

Enough.

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05/29/2008 10:05 PM

Sorry about any confusion over my earlier posting.

One thing I noticed in your article (by it's absence) , was no mention of fusing the vertabrae. Was that done, and you didn't mention it, or is that "old thinking"/not appropriate for the species?

I was told at one point that fusing the vertabrae (in a human) would prevent more damage or pinched nerves. Of course later I was told that didn't really work well, because the physical stresses are just moved to the vertabrae & disc material above and below.

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05/30/2008 8:41 AM

The procedure on my dog was done several years ago so my memory is fuzzy regarding fusing. I do not believe that her vertebrae were fused but I think it was an option if things did not go well or if there had been more damage (i.e. if we had waited longer). I almost remember the surgeon saying it could occur naturally, but after doing a bit of research I did not see any evidence saying that happens.

My reading also shows that if a vet (or doctor) deems fusing to be necessary, it's usually done within the same or a next surgery using bone grafts or plates and screws. Most procedures on the cervical vertebrae are performed ventrally (or on the front of the neck) so an incision is cut from the throat to the sternum. This is considered to be "less invasive" and is how my dog's procedure was performed - her arteries, esophagus, etc. were pushed aside to access the spinal canal. In severe cases, they go in dorsally, meaning from the back (spine side).

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05/30/2008 3:39 AM

SavvyExacta:

Eagerly awaiting your next post, yes; there are several examples of what else can be done. In the case of an animal many are the choice some of which are disallowed for human treatment; the why of most of it is??

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05/30/2008 8:54 AM

Glad to hear you've been enjoying the series! Part 4 will be the last part on cervical spine problems for dogs.

My next blog entry focuses on one alternative therapy that is used by many humans as well. One thing I do not mention is that my dog also takes a non-prescription joint supplement when she's flaring up too. (Like most people with arthritis or old injuries, she is stiff during damp weather or seasonal changes.)

I believe that there are more alternative therapies or medications available for animals because the testing is less rigorous than for people. Obviously the education for vets is comparable to human doctors and there are certainly still lawsuits, but as we've seen from a previous poster the majority of people value human life more than animal life. In the case of medicine, research there should rightly be an emphasis on curing and treating human problems.

Additionally, many of the medications used for animals are used on an "off-label" basis. This means that they are being used for a purpose other than their original intent. An example: Pergolide is a drug that was created to treat Parkinson's disease. It was withdrawn from the market after many people started having vascular problems. This posed a problem for many equine vets and horse owners who were using Pergolide off-label to treat equine Cushing's syndrome, an endocrine disorder caused by a benign tumor in the pituitary gland of older horses. They finally reached an agreement with the FDA to compound it only for use in horses because it has been shown to help improve their quality of life with minimal side effects.

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10/13/2009 11:04 AM

Is it common after back surgery for the spine to stay up, curved? My boy, peke shitzu mix, 9 pounds, had back surgery, 3 weeks post (had an infection for about 9 days) and he looks good, up and down with the back legs... He has that upward curve. Is this normal, does it flatten back out?

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10/13/2009 11:08 AM

Hi Guest,

I'm not a vet so I can't say for sure. Three weeks is still pretty close to surgery so I would make sure he has adequate time to heal. About a year after my dog's surgery I started having her worked on by a canine chiropractor. This vet showed me some techniques for massaging the soft tissue by the spine to relax everything into place. This sounds like something that might benefit your dog after he has some more time to heal.

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