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Engineering360: "Turning Human Urine into Environmentally-friendly Fertilizer"

12/26/2017 10:45 AM

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12/26/2017 4:13 PM

I find this rather disturbing as the infectious nature of prions is not known fully, there remains a possibility that this may be an avenue of proliferation for insidious maladies that not only persist but seem to be growing in number as we speak....that being said this seems an unwise endeavour...therefore you should cease and desist and abandon this ill advised path....

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2593137/

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1404401#t=article

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12/27/2017 6:18 AM

I shall continue to pee on the compost heap.

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12/27/2017 8:22 AM

You wouldn't think that was funny if you've ever watched a loved one die from Alzheimer's....

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12/27/2017 12:51 PM

I'm sorry to hear of your unfortunate loss, but let us not argue from the particular event to a general situation. It is still a hypothesis to be worked on that Alzheimer's is a prion disease.

In the meantime the likelihood that I am carrying a prion approaches zero, and the likelihood that something else would pick up sufficient of my prions to infect them is zero.

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12/27/2017 7:50 PM

..."Recent experiments in mice have added weight to the idea that Alzheimer's is driven by an infection-like spread of protein aggregates in the brain. ... In fact, it represents a return to one of the first modern theories about Alzheimer's: that it is like a weakly-transmissible prion disease.Feb 17, 2012"...

http://dana.org/News/Details.aspx?id=43210

..." In recent years, scientists have discovered that similar processes of protein misfolding are at work in many neurodegenerative disorders, including Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s and Lou Gehrig’s disease. Now, a study in Nature reveals the first evidence for human-to-human transmission of the misfolded proteins that underlie the pathology of Alzheimer’s disease."...

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/evidence-for-person-to-person-transmission-of-alzheimer-s-pathology/

So maybe the guy who is peeing in the compost your vegetables are grown in, or animals you are consuming were fed with, had the disease....? Have you been tested?... otherwise your insistence that you are prion free is rather puzzling....I don't blame you for fear of being a carrier, just your public denial of the possibility....If you are so sure that Alzheimer's is non-transmissible, then what is your explanation of its prevalence? Where and how does the disease originate?

https://www.cdc.gov/prions/cwd/transmission.html

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12/27/2017 8:00 PM

..."An estimated 5.5 million Americans of all ages have Alzheimer's disease. Of the estimated 5.5 million Americans living with Alzheimer's dementia in 2017, an estimated 5.3 million are age 65 and older and approximately 200,000 individuals are under age 65 and have younger-onset Alzheimer's."...

Alzheimer's is the 6th leading cause of death in the US....one in three seniors dies with Alzheimer's...Deaths from Alzheimer's have increased 89% since 2000....one in ten people 65 and older has Alzheimer's...

https://www.alz.org/facts/overview.asp

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12/28/2017 7:02 AM

It's all in the statistics. The prevalence of age-related illness is related to the prevalence of elderly people. Cardiovascular disease mortality is also on the up. The increased prevalence of any illness may also be related to the increased ability to diagnose it.

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12/28/2017 10:51 AM

Cardiovascular disease deaths have declined 14% since 2000....these are per capita data points...

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12/27/2017 10:43 PM

As the article provides no information about the UGold process, it seems we have no information about the potential for the existence of the dreaded prions; after all, not all forms of phosporous, nitrogen and micronutrients are biologically harmful.

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12/27/2017 11:23 PM

The very fact that they don't address this issue is cause for concern....

http://www.awmc.uq.edu.au/ugold-decentralised-nutrient-recovery-urine-microbial-electroconcentration-cells

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01/09/2018 2:50 PM

Prions? Dementia? Reduction in cardiac deaths? Maybe we should focus on living well rather than pointlessly and selfishly extending life to a point where our genetics cannot allow us a useful existance. I shall continue to pee in the environment as often as possible also

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