Close
Close
7 comments
Comments: Nested

Engineering360: "A Phthalate Substitute Promises Safer Plastics"

11/02/2018 5:33 PM

Read Engineering360 article: A Phthalate Substitute Promises Safer Plastics.

Register to Reply
Interested in this topic? By joining CR4 you can "subscribe" to
this discussion and receive notification when new comments are added.
Guru

Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 8006
Good Answers: 286
#1

Re: A Phthalate Substitute Promises Safer Plastics

11/03/2018 5:24 AM

If there is worry over potentiial health problems fromphthalates leaching out of plastic we use .... maybe people should stop exposing themselves to phthalates with the myriad of air fresheners and scented oils and candles that disperse phthalates to into the air for the expess purpose of dumbing down your olfactory nerves hence ,'cleaning the air of odors'.

__________________
Eternal vigilance is the price of knowledge. - George Santayana
Register to Reply
Participant

Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 2
#2

Re: A Phthalate Substitute Promises Safer Plastics

11/04/2018 1:06 AM

Anybody besides me a little bit skeptical about the wisdom of pouring boiling water into a "BPA free", I-feel-so-much-better-now, plastic AeroPress coffee maker? I bet my AeroPress gets lighter with every cup as the phthalates leach into my morning joe. :(

Register to Reply
Power-User

Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: NASA-Glenn Research Center, Cleveland Ohio
Posts: 389
Good Answers: 17
#3

Re: A Phthalate Substitute Promises Safer Plastics

11/05/2018 7:22 AM

How about those memory foam beds that people sleep on.. can you imagine the amount of plasticizer that is soaked in that polymer? and people lie in bed and breathe that for 1/3 of their daily life.

i can imagine that some day (when someone gets smart enough to realize that this is a hazard) these beds will be discontinued as lawsuits knock the sellers out of business.

I know that the Chinese manufacturers could care less what they put in them.

Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 8006
Good Answers: 286
#4
In reply to #3

Re: A Phthalate Substitute Promises Safer Plastics

11/05/2018 8:03 AM

You are right, there may be significant exposure there. Still it seems that it would probably be dwarfed by the exposure from phthalates intentionally aerosolized speficically into indoor breathing space for the purpose of breathing scented air.

__________________
Eternal vigilance is the price of knowledge. - George Santayana
Register to Reply
Commentator

Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 70
Good Answers: 1
#5

Re: A Phthalate Substitute Promises Safer Plastics

11/14/2018 11:03 AM

What type of phthalate base is it? Co or Zn?

Hint: phthalates are used as accelerators; so they react with monomers included the PVC.

Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 8006
Good Answers: 286
#6
In reply to #5

Re: A Phthalate Substitute Promises Safer Plastics

11/14/2018 4:41 PM

"... phthalates are used as accelerators; so they react with ..."

Could you elaborate?

AFAIK: Phthalates are used as plasticizers most commonly (not accelerators that I can think of, though an example to the contrary would be enlightening/appreciated). Phthalatates when intimately mixed with polymer obstruct polymer chains from linking to each other to varying degrees....allowing chains to slide and move less rigidly. As such phthalates are generally not well bonded, which is why leaching can be problematic.

__________________
Eternal vigilance is the price of knowledge. - George Santayana
Register to Reply
Power-User

Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: NASA-Glenn Research Center, Cleveland Ohio
Posts: 389
Good Answers: 17
#7
In reply to #6

Re: A Phthalate Substitute Promises Safer Plastics

11/15/2018 10:30 AM

yes that is how i have used them over the years with Benzyl Butyl Phthalate the plasticizer of choice for ceramic tape casting using organic solvents.

I use a polymer/ceramic powder thin film to make ceramic widgets.

these tapes are made using something similar to paint which is poured on a mylar film and as the film is pulled under a " Doctor Blade" which is a metering device that is bacially a slit that allows a desired thickness to be cast on the mylar film. after the slurry-slip-paint dries, it is removed from the mylar and used.

The tape would crack if no plasticizer were used. the plasticizer will usually last aprox. 6 mts. to a year before the plasticizer evaporates out.

Register to Reply
Register to Reply 7 comments
Copy to Clipboard

Users who posted comments:

Jose1 (1); Planenuts (1); setlock77 (2); truth is not a compromise (3)

Advertisement