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Engineering360: "Study: "Dirty data" taints predictive policing software"

04/12/2019 11:49 AM

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04/12/2019 3:27 PM

But, hoo-boy, if you were to accuse scientists of using 'dirty data' in the global warming debate, you are going to shouted down as a denier.

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04/12/2019 4:43 PM

I'm all for law and order, but the term "predictive policing" sounds dangerous to me, especially if the data has to be "cleaned".

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04/12/2019 9:50 PM

It's not surprising - bias in, bias out. Dirty data indeed. Not so much predictive as predictable.

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04/12/2019 10:14 PM

Is it really bias or perceived bias? There seems to be a lot of confirmation bias going on.

There also seems to be no shortage of those who wish to ascribe an institutional reason for individuals' behaviors.

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04/13/2019 8:27 AM

Bottom line, an AI or other system of prediction is only as good as the data. A system that is fed biased input is going to have a biased output.

A program, machine or AI is only as good as its handlers. I don't need a confirmation bias for this conclusion to be valid.

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04/13/2019 9:24 AM

AI, Actual Idiots is what it means. And they are correct, as we allow this to be forced on us without any input or rejection.

I think this was trialed on Julian Assange this week.

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04/13/2019 9:41 AM

AI, I think Artificial Idiots might capture it.

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04/13/2019 2:12 PM

Serious question: If I shoot and kill and Ai machine am I a murderer? If I switch it off is this humane or am I a murderer, (stone cold heartless killer)?

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04/13/2019 2:55 PM

I am entirely in favor of a firm hand with the machines. Call me heartless.

Seriously, the RCMP tried to charge a man with attempted murder here a couple years ago, for firing on one of their robots. You see, they believed the man was mentally ill, and so instead of whatever they do with normal people, they sent this machine into his house to harrass him deliver their message. Because that wouldn't freak you out, if you were having an 'episode'. He was armed with a rifle though and pretty much bagged it or at least gave it some dings. They had to use a fire hose after that, flooding the house to force him to come out... except that he had already left by a back window.... long story they eventually got him and indeed, the attempted murder of their robot was one of the charges. I believe that was afterwards dropped, though.

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04/13/2019 3:24 PM

They are pulling out plonkers, next we will be burying our power tools, with a full service and some professional wailers. Rust in peace.

It does not say much for the RCMP. They should go back to horses, they were far more clever.

Just how much more stupid, ridiculous, pathetic, beyond any, never mind human, comprehension can humans get. (Not a rhetorical question). Please confirm, this is planet earth? I think aliens have abducted planet earth. Mork calling Ausin, come in please.

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04/13/2019 4:23 PM

You don't bury your power tools??? I mean, there's a small but deserving place for sentimentality...

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