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Engineering360: "Carbon storage - lending the forests a hand"

09/02/2021 4:22 PM

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Re: Carbon storage - lending the forests a hand

09/03/2021 5:55 AM

This seems to be much fear mongering, a nice scare tactic to fool people yet again. It is stated that the CO2 has never been higher. Clearly the graphs show otherwise and that CO2 is falling for the UK and Sweden. In S Africa and India the CO2 is rising.

In SA this is understandable given that ESKOM cannot produce electricity, nor supply enough for the population, so wood fires are most peoples backup or daily method of cooking.

India similar story, just with a heck of a lot more people and vehicles.

I am quite sure that the data and dates are a tad falsified too. For Sweden I see no figures for the pollution levels from the 10th century until 1992 when copper mining was a boom and all smelting was done with charcoal fires and trees were cut down for this charcoal. Therefore CO2 absorption was very limited and there should have been massive levels in your graph pre 2019. Your figures only start around 1880 so it is assumed that you have no figures for the period prior to 1880, making the basis that your figures are not true and selected to make a picture of doom and gloom.

Besides this, the idea to put CO2 back in the ground, clever as it may be, is not yet proven smart, clever nor viable. It is conjecture and theory at this stage as no one has any results as to what may happen, will happen or could happen once the CO2 is 'stored' in the ground.

Can it assist in moving the tectonic plates resulting in more earth quakes for some areas? Can it leak out of the ground and become a gas that rises up and chokes us? Methane, compared to carbon dioxide, which is the other major greenhouse gas, has a shorter lifespan in the atmosphere. However, this gas is more efficient in trapping radiation, which increases the heat. Methane (CH4), is a naturally occurring gas found in wetlands and soil.

So by pumping the mixture of CO2 into the ground, how can anyone be assured that this mixture does not lubricate the tectonic plates or surrounding rock formations, or find its way into the aquafers and underground water course, of which there are many, and create another havoc on the planet.

It has been proven, I understand, that oil companies pumping slurry mixes of water and oil back down wells, have been responsible for quite a few earth quakes, lubricating tectonic plates and causing devastation under the pretence of nature. What cleverness will prevent this happening with CO2 disposal in the earths mantle.

I also believe one should present all the facts and not selected data to bolster information. What were the CO2 levels when dinosaurs were wiped out? What were the CO2 levels in Sweden, England and Europe during the Industrial revolution? How do they compare to today? Up or down or simply you don't have these facts?

I am sure there are some who will like to have the assurances that pumping CO2 down into a hole id not going to come back and bite them or others, at a later date, on the butt, as so often has been the case.

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Re: Carbon storage - lending the forests a hand

09/03/2021 3:00 PM

And no better time than the present, in a 'pandemic' of fear, to add more fear, to enhance the fear already instilled in this CO2 farce.

“Natural volcanic and man-made CO2 emissions have the exact same and very distinctive carbon isotopic fingerprint. It is therefore scientifically impossible to distinguish the difference between volcanic CO2 and human-induced CO2 from the burning of fossil fuels. This major problem with the AGW principle has been rationalized away by consensus climate scientists who insist, based upon supposedly reliable research, that volcanic emissions are minuscule in comparison to human-induced CO2 emissions (Gerlach 1991).

“Terrance Gerlach’s volcanic CO2 calculation was based on just 7 actively erupting land volcanoes and three actively erupting ocean floor hydrothermal vents (seafloor hot geysers). Utilizing gas emission data from this very limited number of volcanic features, Gerlach estimated that the volume of natural volcanic CO2 emissions is 100 to 150 times less than the volume of man-made CO2 emissions from the burning of fossil fuels and therefore of no consequence.

“To put this calculation process into perspective, the Earth is home to 1,500 land volcanoes and 900,000 seafloor volcanoes/hydrothermal vents. By sampling just an extremely small percent of these volcanic features it is impossible to imagine that the calculation is correct.

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Re: Carbon storage - lending the forests a hand

09/03/2021 1:46 PM

The forests don't need our help reducing carbon dioxide. In fact, they would appreciate more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

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