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Sesimic Design As Per IS 1893 In Conjunction With API 650

03/29/2015 8:16 AM

I have a problem while designing a tank for Seismic Analysis as per API 650, 2013.
The tank is located in India hence the applicable code for Seismic is IS-1893 & Zone given is V. For zone V the value of z is 0.36.
My concern is how to calculate the values of Ai & Ac, where Ai is Impulsive design response spectrum acceleration coefficient & Ac is Convective design response spectrum acceleration coefficient?
Should I use the equation for Ai= z/2*I/R*Sa/g [IS 1893]?
Or do I have to use the equation which is given in Appendix E of API 650?
If API 650is to be followed, then how to calculate the values of Ss, S1 , SDS & SD1 in terms if IS 1893?
The value of Ai calculated as per IS 1893 becomes much less than the calculated value of Appendix E, which in turn affects on the seismic moment. Because of the increased seismic moment mechanical anchorage is required & also the maximum longitudinal shell compression stress [E.6.2.2.2 of API 650] at the bottom of shell exceeds the allowable stress [E.6.2.2.3 of API 650] which in turn needs to increase the thicknesses of shell courses.
Kindly guide me through the equations to consider.
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Re: Sesimic design AS per IS 1893 in conjunction with API 650

03/29/2015 9:47 AM

From this site you can find some examples:

http://www.iitk.ac.in/nicee/IITK-GSDMA/EQ08.pdf

EXample 4

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03/30/2015 3:36 AM

I admire your quick response but my requirement is a bit different.

I have to design a tank for API 650 seismic code but have to consider site data details like Z or Sp from IS 1893. Then I will have to calculate all other variables like SD1, Ss, S1 etc and subsequently Ai & Ac from API 650.
Now the point is how should i go ahead?
Should i consider Zone factor as 0.36 (zone-V, IS 1893) as Sp and then calculate S1, Ss, SD1 etc and further calculate Ai (impulsive) & Ac (convective)?
Is it allowed as per code, if yes, is it written anywhere? have anyone done this kind of calculation.

Here, please be informed that both the Codes (IS1893 & API 650) yield varied results in anchor bolt nos. & size.

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03/30/2015 4:30 AM

May be tthe following information could help:

For seismic design of liquid

storage tanks, IS 1893:1984 has very limited

provisions. These provisions are only for

elevated tanks and ground supported tanks

are not considered. Even for elevated tanks,

effect of sloshing mode of vibration is not

included in IS 1893:1984. Moreover,

compared with present international practice

for seismic design of tanks, there are many

limitations in the provisions of IS 1893:1984,

some of which have been discussed by Jain

and Medhekar (1993, 1994). Thus, one finds

that at present in India there is no proper

Code/Standard for seismic design of liquid

storage tanks.

This Guidelines contains provisions on liquid

retaining tanks. Unless otherwise stated, this

guideline shall be read necessarily in

conjunction with IS: 1893 (Part 1): 2002

http://es.slideshare.net/asifzhcet/1893-2002-part-1

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Re: Sesimic design AS per IS 1893 in conjunction with API 650

03/30/2015 4:36 AM

This has been revised.There are significant change in the new revision, definitely influenced by other existing codes.

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03/30/2015 4:48 AM

Sorry, I worked in India many years ago. I do not have more new informationon my files.....but in concordance with Solar Eagle API 650 Appendix E could be the way.

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03/30/2015 5:01 AM

Appendix-E and ECare meant for designing of tanks in the US. In India we have to follow both API 650 & IS1893. The seismic calculation as per API 650 is cumbersome and lengthy. I am a little confused about my approach as how to consider Indian site conditions and computing with American codes.

If you get any information to share, i would be obliged.

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03/30/2015 5:06 AM

Yes, ofcourse. Good luck and greetings WP

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03/29/2015 4:40 PM

I would take the most conservative approach....but I think this is a question to be asked of the underwriter and chief architect or chief engineer....The most conservative code almost always trumps the lessor involved...

http://www.iitk.ac.in/nicee/IITK-GSDMA/EQ01.pdf

http://www.iitk.ac.in/nicee/IITK-GSDMA/EQ08.pdf

http://www.iitk.ac.in/nicee/wcee/article/14_08-02-0030.PDF

http://www.ast-forum.com/ast_forum_display.asp?post=12310

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03/30/2015 3:38 AM

I admire your quick response but my requirement is a bit different.

I have to design a tank for API 650 seismic code but have to consider site data details like Z or Sp from IS 1893. Then I will have to calculate all other variables like SD1, Ss, S1 etc and subsequently Ai & Ac from API 650.
Now the point is how should i go ahead?
Should i consider Zone factor as 0.36 (zone-V, IS 1893) as Sp and then calculate S1, Ss, SD1 etc and further calculate Ai (impulsive) & Ac (convective)?
Is it allowed as per code, if yes, is it written anywhere? have anyone done this kind of calculation.

Here, please be informed that both the Codes (IS1893 & API 650) yield varied results in anchor bolt nos. & size.

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03/30/2015 4:09 AM

Yes, appendix E of API 650...

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03/30/2015 6:28 AM

You please tell me if I should consider the PEAK GROUND ACCELERATION as 'z' given in IS 1893?

And, are 'z' (IS 1893) and 'Sp' (in API 650) same?

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03/30/2015 11:57 AM

I believe it is well explained at this posted link....

http://tenders.hpcl.co.in/tenders/tender_prog/tenderfiles/1896/Tender/Nitrogen%20PDF%20documents-%20dtd.%2013.7.09/Technical/6261_4807_027_Attachment-17_Civil%20Specifications/17.3-design%20spec/17.3.5-Design%20Specification%20for%20Seismic.pdf

...however, I am not in India and do not work in India, so perhaps you should seek some guidance in India....

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Re: Sesimic Design As Per IS 1893 in Conjunction with API 650

03/31/2015 2:15 AM

okay. I have got the solution. Thank you.Now I have another query i.e. in Equation E-4.6.1-1 of API 650, 2013. it says '...However, Ai>= 0.007and fr S1> 0.6...

Ai> 0.5S1.(I/Rwi)= 0.625Sp(I/Rwi)"

Here, please be noted that i am getting S1 value which is greater than 0.6 and Ai value is greater than 0.007.

Eq.4.6.1-1 yields higher value than Eq.4.6.1-3.

Now please elaborate as when I should use equation E.4.6.1-1 and E.4.6.1-3??

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