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Sensor in pedal assist pedicab

07/20/2007 1:07 AM

Dear all,

Do any of you know how the pedal magnet sensor work in pedicab or electric bike (pedal assist system)?
I mean how the sensor read the pedal rpm or torque, I saw there 5 magnets located near the pedal sprocket and the sensor fixed to the pedal's hub. So the sensor in fix and the magnet rotate.
before the hub motor work, what happen to the magnet sensor? and when motor is working what is red by the sensor so the controller can connect/disconnect the current from baterry ? Is it magnetic field, magnet induction (i'm sorry if i'm wrong), or what ?

And one more thing, The words " pedal assist system ". which one is the main power and which one is the assist power, the hub motor or the pedal power ?

Thank's.

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Re: Sensor in pedal assist pedicab

07/22/2007 10:32 AM

I don't have the exact knowledge of the system you are talking about, but most probably, there is used a Hall-effect based sensor. When there are the magnet field changes around this sensor, it responds on thus changes by means of current generation, that can be used forward with controlling purpose.

Try to find more Hall-effect on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall_effect

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Re: Sensor in pedal assist pedicab

07/22/2007 2:19 PM

Good question. I can only guess. Ordinarily you would want to measure torque, because you only need help when pedaling torque is high. But how would the relationship between the five magnets and the sensor change with torque. (It would clearly change with speed, of course.) If there is some compliance built into the bottom bracket, then the distance from magnet to sensor would change, and that would change the magnetic flux -- but it would be a very small change, particularly because the bottom bracket area should be very stiff for good power transfer. But if the gap is small, and the sensor/magnet relationship is optimal, then the change of gap (and thus flux) that would occur with frame flex could be used as a control input.

There was an earlier thread on a related issue: http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/5979/Measuring-instantaneous-power-on-bicycles

You could probably find out more with a patent search.

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