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Satellite Orbit Adjustments?

11/04/2015 3:23 PM

Odd it may be, but I am sure there will be a flood of answers to this. When a satellite circumnavigates the earth to provide communications and the like, if the earth tilts on its axis, is the satellite adjusted in its planned flight path to stay in the planned flight path? If so is this co-ordinated with all satellite owners to prevent clashes and crashes or are the satellites just left to orbit in the same flight path while earth tilts and the satellite dishes adjusted to track the same flight path. Just a curious question that I never gave much thought to until this evening. Any answers on this?

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Re: Satellite orbit adjustments?

11/04/2015 3:31 PM

The Earth's tilt is a constant. It does not periodically change the tilt as you suggest.

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11/04/2015 3:31 PM

If the Earth did tilt, which it doesn't, on its axis satellites would be able to make MINOR adjustments. Until their fuel runs out.

Repositioning geostationary satellites

The Earth's tilt is natural and does not change. (with very, very minor exceptions)

Spy satellites are an exception and can be moved around, some.

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11/04/2015 3:32 PM

The earth doesn't "tilt".

It has a tilted axis around which it spins. This tilt is what gives us seasons.

Most satellites are in geo-stationary orbit. They stay in the same place with respect to the earth surface.

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11/04/2015 7:50 PM

"Most satellites are in geo-stationary orbit."

In fact, only a tad over 16% of earth orbiting satellites are in geosynchronous orbit and they require constant adjustment to compensate for orbital perturbation of a bit under 1°/yr caused by both the non-spherical shape of the earth and gravity effects of the earth, moon and sun, and thus to keep them in correct N/S position, plus they require further E/W adjustment to keep them in synchronous position above the earth.

As satellites begin to run out of fuel for these maneuvres, the N/S control is often discontinued due to its heavier fuel requirements and then the satellite will tend to move north and south with respect to earth for each sidereal period. Once that movement becomes too large to stay in the conical eye of the earth receiver then the receiver dish has to be able to track the satellite's trajectory. This orbital inclination can become very large - over 40° for some older satellites.

For non geosynchronous very low orbiting satellites such as the space station and some spy units, air friction and consequent slowing of orbital speed must be counteracted by delta-v adjustments to boost orbital height. For higher altitude non geosynchronous sats. such as observation units, air drag is not such a problem and can be overcome with minor delta-v adjustments, but to maintain constant ground tracking, so called "out of plane" burns are executed to counter sun and moon gravitational effects.

As for the question regarding preventing collisions - geo-synchronous satellites are constrained in orbital altitude but are generally longitudinally separated by around 50 -100km, some co-located ones are grouped at around 5km distances so that they can be captured in the same cone width of the receiving dishes. Single TV broadcast satellites or their co-located groups generally try for a larger distance mainly predicated on the ability of low cost dishes to home in on them with a reasonable degree of accuracy.

Communications sats. are mainly spaced so that beamwidth interference is avoided thus allowing the same carrier frequencies to be used for multiple sats.

Non synchronous sats. have the ability to be separated by both longitude and latitude and also orbital altitude.

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11/05/2015 3:23 AM

To all that you must also consider the Earth's axial precession movement. Although it's not very big (only 1 degree every 72 years) it adds up in time and it also changes the equatorial plane's positions, which makes the adjustment more complex (and fuel consuming).

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11/05/2015 5:08 AM

Agreed..It does add up in time, but considering that the present life expectancy of a satellite is just 10 - 15 years, that 1° in 72yrs becomes just 0.2° in the 15 years life of the sat. By contrast, perturbation can affect satellites by as much as a couple of degrees per day. It will affect their right ascension by varying amounts and directions dependent on their orbital height and grade of motion around the planet.

Not all precession effects are fully corrected - often satellite orbits are designed so that precession carries their orbits where they are required.

For instance - a synchronous (not geo sync) orbitting sat will pass over the same ground point once every sidereal day, this means that at some stage, as the seasons change, that point it will be in darkness when the sat. passes overhead - a bit of a problem for a photographic mission.

As precession causes the orbital axis to revolve around the poles, it can then be controlled to make that axis sun-synchronous and thus in daylight at the required times for the entire year.

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11/04/2015 4:04 PM

The fact that the earth's rotational axis is tilted at 23 degrees with respect to the earth's orbital plane axis is irrelevant as far as a geosynchronous satellite is concerned. These satellites are just launched over the equator at an altitude that takes 24 hours to complete an orbit, so they "park" over a fixed point on earth.

Note that there is nothing to keep them exactly in place, so small periodic adjustments are necessary, requiring the satellite to have a reserve of fuel. When the fuel is exhausted, the satellite can no longer maintain it's position.

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11/04/2015 5:16 PM

The orbit is relative to the earth so the tilt does not factor in with exception to the forces of gravity coming from the moon and sun.

You can model it as if the earth were in deep space far away from any other gravity forces because the forces from the moon and sun are small. They do eventually add up and things need adjustment.

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11/04/2015 6:00 PM

Yes there is a traffic control center....The Space Command constantly monitors all traffic, the're the ones that give the launch windows and positioning info....at least they used to....I think there are private sector and military strategic components now...

http://spacenews.com/strategic-command-envisions-civil-space-traffic-management/

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11/05/2015 2:37 AM

IQ, you really need to change your name, it does not fit in with such questions.....or at least do some simple research about the possible problem, before making a a*s* of yourself here.....

This is not even high school level astronomy.....

THE EARTH'S TILT DOES NOT CHANGE IN THE DRAMATIC WAY YOU APPEAR TO THINK IT DOES.

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11/05/2015 3:40 AM

Thank you Einstein.

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Re: Satellite Orbit Adjustments?

11/05/2015 6:55 AM

Obviously the number of good answers and the very interesting discussion prove that this was a good question. Thank you, IQ for posting!

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Re: Satellite Orbit Adjustments?

11/05/2015 9:50 AM

What's the odds for the Earth to change its momentum from its axis? What's the odds for the satellite to tilt from it's axis?

Earth may tilt north and south magnetic poles but it wont effect the momentum of the planet, unless otherwise some mass has to transfer from here, there to somewhere or everywhere around the globe. Don't you think?

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