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Double Ferrule Compression Type Fittings

12/09/2005 8:26 AM

Anonymous writes:
In last couple of years I am hearing from field people and users of DFDC (Double Ferrule Double Compression type fittings) that Swagelok has changed the design of compression fitting to an advanced style compression fitting. This probably was done without the usual publicity associated with any Swagelok new launches.

Many people like me may not be aware of this fact and everyone still assumes a Swagelok fitting is to be a Swagelok fittings. Is there any physical difference between the versions?

Some people with whom I have spoken have remarked that they have observed a sticking effect after making a fitting.Observed sizes were ranging from 1/4" OD / 6mm to 1/2"OD/ 12mm OD Sizes. They further commented that they did not observed this phenomenon a few years.

They further add that after tightening the fitting, properly removing of tube is difficult for checking. This means that for maintenance if this sticking occurs you have to pay additional costs for new fitting

Now a few questions: 1) Is the new design interchangable / intermixable with the old design? 2) If they are, then why are there the differences observed earlier.

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#1

First i've heard of it

12/09/2005 9:00 AM

Are you sure it isn't hearsay?

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#2
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Re:First i've heard of it

12/12/2005 8:13 AM

We are using Swagelok fittings for long time. All the time the perseption was that it's the best. In the last few years we started facing problems with the fittings. Not swaging properly some times more the 11/4 turn, can't pull the tube out of body . Buth the perseption was that Swagelok can't be mistaken. We are starting to look for the reasons and what came up here might be a thing to investigate. We know that Swagelok have changed the ferrules but didn't change the part no. even they have changed the product.

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#3
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Re:First i've heard of it

12/16/2005 2:08 PM

http://en2k3.swagelok.com/downloads/webcatalogs/EN /MS-06-16.pdf

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#4
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Re:First i've heard of it

12/17/2005 6:28 AM

I think there are many people like us whom swagelok has taken for granted or may be ride. Why dont we circulate this news amongst the users we know and try to get more feedback ?

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#5
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Re:First i've heard of it

12/17/2005 6:46 AM

Even i heard it first time and thought it to be hearsay but fact is that this is true and i think many will testify for this.

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#6
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Re:First i've heard of it

12/22/2005 1:02 AM

i think there should be many big companies like GE, Siemnens, Alstom, Exxon Mobil, Chevron Texaco, Shell, and many more who have experineced the same may be why can't they speak out on this issue.

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#7
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Re:First i've heard of it

12/22/2005 1:05 AM

how we can doubt swagelok is the general feeling and hence they have taken the disadvantage it seems .v shd speat to friends and find our c mon

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#11
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Re:First i've heard of it

12/07/2008 4:06 AM

hI,How are you .

Nice to meet you , our company produce tube fitting the same as swagelok ,if you are interest in our products ,you can contact me ,my contact detailes as below:

Susan Huang

International marketing Dept.
WenZhou FangDun Instrument Valve Co.,LTD

NO.9 YongXin Road,YongXing Industrial District ,LongWan Zone ,WenZhou City ,China

Post code:325024
www..fangdun.com http://fangdun.en.alibaba.com/ www.fittingvalve.com
Phone:0086-577-86928952
Fax:0086-577-86926781

cell:0086 0 13251046945
Msn:hwdfangdun@yahoo.com.cn hwd038866@hotmail.com
email:huang@fangdun.com hwdfangdun@yahoo.com.cn

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#14
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Re:First i've heard of it

01/11/2009 3:12 PM

I sold Swagelok for approx 25 years - I am now selling a brand called Ham-Let which is getting great reviews and used on Nuclear Power Station etc. 4 years and thousands of fittings with not one issue. Only difference is the price, ask for a quote.

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Anonymous Poster
#8

Re: Double Ferrule Compression Type Fittings

06/16/2008 1:41 PM

the only difference is the design of the back ferrule.

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#9
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Re: Double Ferrule Compression Type Fittings

07/28/2008 11:14 PM

our company produce the same compression tube fitting as swagelok ,my engineer can tell you the reason .

please contact us .and visit our website

Susan WenZhou FangDun Instrument Valve Co.,LTD
www..fangdun.com http://fangdun.preview.alibaba.com/
Phone:0086-577-86928952
Fax:0086-577-86926781
Msn:hwdfangdun@yahoo.com.cn

huang@fangdun.com hwdfangdun@yahoo.com.cn fd@fangdun.com

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#12
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Re: Double Ferrule Compression Type Fittings

12/07/2008 4:07 AM

yes ,you are right .

please contact me :

Susan Huang

International marketing Dept.
WenZhou FangDun Instrument Valve Co.,LTD

NO.9 YongXin Road,YongXing Industrial District ,LongWan Zone ,WenZhou City ,China

Post code:325024
www..fangdun.com http://fangdun.en.alibaba.com/ www.fittingvalve.com
Phone:0086-577-86928952
Fax:0086-577-86926781

cell:0086 0 13251046945
Msn:hwdfangdun@yahoo.com.cn hwd038866@hotmail.com
email:huang@fangdun.com hwdfangdun@yahoo.com.cn

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Anonymous Poster
#10

Re: Double Ferrule Compression Type Fittings

11/29/2008 7:04 PM

One of the biggest defence contrators in the UK has experinced "Issues" but would not disclose the details. But you are correct in saying that the "New" fittings have problems with sticking after make up. Local rep could not offer much help except to say that the fitting had been over tightened!!!!

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Anonymous Poster
#13

Re: Double Ferrule Compression Type Fittings

01/02/2009 8:52 PM

In our area, Swagelok launched a release with info and education of the employees. We've not had the problems mentioned on SS fittings. We do know of an install (in our insdustry) which had a pacific rim SUBSTITUTE FITTING on lube lines for a major gas turbine company that had major leakage issues. These 3/4 and 1" lines were all removed and replumbed with Swagelok without issue.

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