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High Normal Stress SigmaX in a Beam

08/24/2018 2:49 PM

Hello,

I would like to ask You a question about difference in results between Euler-Bernoulli method of analysis of stress in short slender beam and 3D FEA method mentioned in ansys aim tutorial here: https://confluence.cornell.edu/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=336368294
The problem looks like 1dimensional:
it is short slender simple beam, where P is a force 1000lbf applied in -y direction

The Result of simgaX after hand calculation (850psi) using Bernoullis model is two times smaller than result obtained using FEA in ANSYS (1800psi).
Hands calculation:

In this tutorial It is mentioned that "substantial out-of-plane stresses (sigmaZ, simgaY) result in Poisson effects on the normal wall stress (sigmaX), increasing its value substantially".

I understand that sigmaZ (710psi according to ansys) is due to the fixation of this beam however sigmaZ is positive = its tensile. simgaX is also tensile so sigmaX should be REDUCED according to Poisson effect. And according to ANSYS it really is because overall equivalent stress (1400psi) is actually smaller than sigmaX (1800psi). (Its due to the fact that all stresses are tensile ( i talk about point above neutral axis)
But (still much higher than simgaX of Bernoulli).

https://ctrlv.cz/F1mf

So the big difference in simgaX between Euler-Bernoulli (sigmaX=850) and 3D FEA ANSYS method (sigmaX=1800psi) can not be caused by out of plane stress.

I would like to ask, why is real value of sigmaX almost two times higher than it is according to Euler-Bernoulli beam theory?
Is it due to the fact, that beam is short and has it sth to do with shear stress?
What theory can be used to calculate analytically more accurately the value of sigmaX (i mean value close to the reality) ?

I know that simgaZ is zero according to euler and that it is not true, but it should decrease sigmaX and not increase it...
It seems so simple, so please answer me.

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Re: High Normal Stress SigmaX in a Beam

08/24/2018 7:07 PM
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Re: High Normal Stress SigmaX in a Beam

08/25/2018 3:27 PM

It's not my area of expertise, but the beam is 8 inches high, 8 inches thick, and 24 inches long, hardly a "slender beam". I suspect that the 3D FEA program takes this into account and Euler-Bernoulli does not, and this is why they disagree.

"The purpose of this tutorial is to showcase, in a relatively simple situation, where simple beam theory is no longer as valid as it is in the limit of a long and slender beam geometry. In some commercial codes, simple one-dimensional cubic beam elements for bending deflection, do not capture shear deflection when the beam is no longer slender. "

https://confluence.cornell.edu/display/SIMULATION/ANSYS+AIM+-+I+Beam

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Re: High Normal Stress SigmaX in a Beam

08/26/2018 4:13 AM

tanks. now i got it :-D

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