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Large Hadron Collider

12/04/2018 6:59 PM
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Re: Large Hadron Collider

12/05/2018 10:21 AM

The first link is very interesting.

The second link is from 2013

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Re: Large Hadron Collider

12/05/2018 10:53 AM

Do you really want your automobile mechanic to try to fix your car while you are driving? No, you don't. This is precisely why the LHC is being turned OFF for two years. Things have been found to not work as expected but data could still be taken so they continued to operate. Those items can now be addressed. During that operational run, new ideas have been hatched to examine things nobody previously thought were relevant. These new aspects will also be attempted. This is normal procedures for cutting-edge large-scale science. (You also want some cooldown time for those transitory isotopes to stop irradiating before people work on the machine.)

What really annoys me is the implied idea many have (not you Lyn) that maintenance times are wasted time. This is the time when the most amount of effective manhours of work happens on one of these complicated machines. Prior to maintenance, a great deal of planning and preparation is performed but actual work cannot be performed until the machine is OFF. During this maintenance interval, the scientists take their vast amount of accumulated data and perform much more in-depth analyses than were quickly performed during operation. This always produces new revelations which spur new ideas for additional instrumentation to be added if time and budgets allow. Eventually, those years fly by and the startup process begins again.

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Re: Large Hadron Collider

12/05/2018 1:10 PM

Well said,

GA from me.

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12/05/2018 4:39 PM

I was Eng. Mgr. for a wet process equipment company 20 years ago, so, when our equipment went down, I got the first call. These were modular lines that could cost up to a Million dollars. Many were off-shore.

The problem was usually the operator not reading/understanding the F-ing Manual or company not shutting down and performing proper PM, that we dictated when they bought it.

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12/05/2018 9:22 PM

GA from me. There's always a contention between the Users and Fixers, it seems. I agree this thing has probably generated enough data to keep the theory guys scratching their heads until it's ready to go again.

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12/05/2018 8:48 PM
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