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Black Anodising Discolouration

05/14/2019 10:16 AM

On a visit to one of our customers it was noted that the black anodising on cameras we had supplied has discoloured, turning purple. The cameras are used in laboratory like conditions, no excessive heat, light or harsh chemicals. Some of the cameras have been in service for almost 20 years, others are more recent. The anodising would have been done by more than one plater as we sub-contract all of our part manufacture. I guess that the dye used in the anodising has faded, has anyone seen this before? Is there a known preventative measure?

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05/14/2019 11:09 AM

"....all black dyes will fade to a purplish color over time, especially if exposed to UV. There might be argument from the dye suppliers on this. Two typical sources of UV are sunlight and fluorescent lighting.

For any organic dye to maintain its color over a reasonable length of time, the anodized, dyed parts must be processed in accordance with rigid specifications.

Briefly, these include the following: The anodic coating thickness should be minimum 0.7 mil (15µ). 1.0 mil (25µ) is better. This is because heavier anodic coatings absorb more dye and, therefore, they have a better chance of maintaining their color longer.

All steps in the anodizing process should be optimized so that processing takes place at the maximum conditions for each step in the process. The use of deionized water rinsing before dying and sealing is important in order to remove contaminants from the parts. This helps keep the dying and sealing baths free of contaminants.

Quality of seal is just as important as the anodizing and dying steps. The anodizer should also know about this. Sealing quality must be superior. Your anodizer undoubtedly knows how to do this.

If you absolutely need a fade-resistant black color, then the black color should be obtained by electrolytic coloring instead of dying. This is a totally different way of coloring and it is lightfast and permanent. Your anodizer either has the electrolytic coloring process, or he doesn’t. If your product requires electrolytic coloring instead of organic dying, perhaps you can enlist the help of your present anodizer to suggest an anodizer who does this process."...

https://www.pfonline.com/articles/anodized-and-dyed-black-extrusions-turning-green-and-purple

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05/14/2019 11:46 AM

Thanks for that. I'm trying to remember the conditions these cameras are used in. There could be high UV, I'll find out tomorrow. The electrolytic colouring is something worth investigating.

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05/14/2019 11:51 AM

Is the substrate leaching ? Not my field, but 20 years makes me wonder. I am, as usual, speculating out of my rear end. 'more than one plater' would also make me consider what might be going on.

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05/14/2019 1:02 PM

We had a full batch of items fade to a dark gold or light brown. We had years of reports of rust stains all over the outside of our aluminum enclosures.

Items properly finished would stay black but fade a little from a jet black to a less pronounced black.

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05/14/2019 6:54 PM

Is this true of all cameras, or just the ones at this location? Are all of this customers cameras fading, or just in a specific area?

"White" L.E.D. lamps are also a great source of U.V. Many chemicals and elements will cause this

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05/14/2019 9:12 PM

We had some black anodized equipment that was never exposed to the sun. There was one blue LED projecting through the aluminum. After a couple of years all the equipment had a very faded ring around the LED.

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05/15/2019 5:24 AM

We've had this with other cameras previously but not to the extent of these.

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05/15/2019 12:56 AM

It has often been said on Antiques Roadshow that removing the patina greatly devalues the, " object de art " .

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05/15/2019 5:25 AM

I can try that argument, not sure it will wash.

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05/15/2019 5:47 AM

Could it be the result of "energetic cleaning" with metho, isopropyl or simiar where the abrasive cloth has removed minute layers of the coating and now you are seeing the substrate filtered through an ever decreasing layer of coating. Essentially polished off like silver plating can be.

If the observation is NOT seen inside recessed screw holes and such, then this might be the cause.

From the picture provided, all areas that are purple are the easily "polished" places.

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Re: Black Anodising Discolouration. Good and Black near CE

05/16/2019 3:47 PM

The field containing the Conformité Européene CE logo is a nice matte black. Why not use the same finish on the part tuning purple ?

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05/17/2019 4:13 AM

That's partly what makes this so difficult to understand. All of those parts were made by the same sub-contractor & would have been anodised at the same time by his plater. The only difference I can think of is that the part with the markings would have been from plate & the other parts from bar.

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