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ACSR or AAAC Conductor Information Needed

10/29/2007 11:25 AM

What type of ACSR or AAAC conductors are used to transmit 450 to 600 MVA power through a 500KV, 300 Km transmission line. What are their Brand names, current carrying capacity, nominal diameter, resistance per meter, maximum tensile strength etc.

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Re: ACSR or AAAC Conductor Information Needed

10/29/2007 11:33 PM

Composite Conductor Corp and 3M are two manufacturers of conductors to handle the power you are describing, also very important is the conductor bundle configuration, spacers, and the altitude of operation.

Google these companies

AEP or American Electric Power out of Columbus, OH has a 735kV AC line and Hydro Quebec has a 735kV AC line and Manitoba Hydro has DC lines, Siemens and ABB are/have buildt DC convertor stations.

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Re: ACSR or AAAC Conductor Information Needed

10/30/2007 6:10 AM

For the sake of discussion, I may point out some trde names of the conductors....Cairo, Greely, Rail, Drake etc. However the conductors can be used irrespective of the altitude or the bundling configuration. The only considerations are the current carrying capacity, the mechanical strength etc.

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Re: ACSR or AAAC Conductor Information Needed

10/30/2007 9:49 AM

The "trade names" you speak of define a specific conductor size, strands, etc. Bird names are used to describe transmission conductors.

SouthWire is one company in the USA that makes transmission conductors.

The mechanical strength is the only thing concerning a mechanical designer, an electrical designer knows conductor size for current flow and applied voltage versus altitude and conductor size do matter.

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Re: ACSR or AAAC Conductor Information Needed

10/30/2007 9:08 AM

Is this just general information you are looking for, or are you going to build this? If so, you better get an engineering frim that does this kind of work because there just isn't an off hand answer.

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Re: ACSR or AAAC Conductor Information Needed

10/30/2007 11:43 AM

The information i m gathering is to know what type of conductors are being used in different countries; with identical brand names as i narrated in my previous discussion or with other brand names.Further what is the relation between mcm and inch2. I am not a builder but the user and my question was in that perspective.

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Re: ACSR or AAAC Conductor Information Needed

10/31/2007 9:47 PM

I will answer the question about circular mils and the actual cross sectional area of a wire in inches squared.

Circular mils are calculated by measuring the diameter of a wire in mils (1/1000 of an inch = 1 mil), and then squaring that diameter. Thus, the cross sectional area of a solid wire 1 inch = 1000 mils in diameter is 1000x1000 = 1,000,000 circular mils, which is also called 1,000 MCM (MCM = 1,000 circular mils.)

The actual cross sectional area of a solid wire 1 inch = 1000 mils in diameter is ∏DxD/4, or ∏x1000x1000/4 = 3.14159/4 x 1,000,000 = 785,398 mils squared, which is approximately 0.785398 inches squared, since 1,000,000 mils squared = 1 inch squared.

A wire 1 mil in diameter has a cross sectional area of 1x1 = 1 circular mil. The actual cross sectional area is ∏x1x1/4 = 0.7853981634 mils squared.

Circular mils are extremely easy to calculate, which is why they were traditionally used. They are not the actual cross sectional area of a wire, measured in mils squared or inches squared, because of the factor of ∏/4.

For a cable made up of N multiple strands, the area in circular mils of the cable is calculated as N times the area in circular mils of a single strand.

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10/30/2007 11:50 AM

I recommend you look at previous discussions as this seems deja vu here, maybe in several discussions.

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10/30/2007 3:23 PM

Here are a couple resources, the first is a distribution voltage course but I think they also have transmission voltage courses. the reference after is from another chat line about conductors. there are also courses in South Africa about transmission. Designing Electrical Overhead Distribution Lines (2 CEU) November 13-15, 2007 in Madison, Wisconsin
By attending this course you will be able to: * Identify and describe customer service policy issues, industry standards, and accepted practices related to overhead distribution lines * Determine conductor sag, tension, and mechanical forces on overhead structures * Describe performance and economic factors relevant to the specification of wood, steel, and concrete poles and structural components * Determine insulation levels and select insulators, lightning arresters, grounding, and other components coordinated to provide acceptable lightning performance
You will also : * Learn legal duties/potential liabilities and risk management methods * Understand electrical and mechanical characteristics, performance and economic factors relevant to selection and applications of overhead distribution conductors * Learn required conductor clearances and structural strengths of overhead lines
Reserve your space today! Typical 345/500/735 kV, 60 Hz overhead line parameters for various conductor diameters are tabulated in the following book: B. M. Weedy: "Electric Power Systems" Wiley, 1974 , p.75 From:
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Formerly, Professor & Head, Electrical Engineering Department, IIT Delhi. Websites
A website on Electric Machines & Power Systems
A website on Control Systems

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where can i get impedance of typical transmission lines used in 15,500,735kV systems?

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