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Gas turbine speed sensor problem

02/04/2006 9:30 AM

radha writes:
Hello, We are using speed sensors non contact type. This is monitoring the gas turbine speed. We use three speed sensor and choose the speed which doesn't fluctuate much as a reference for control. My problem is, one particular speed sensor speed is fluctuating a lot. We have changed the speed sensor, monitoring module, the cable from the speed sensor to the module and confirmed the shield's grounding as well. Nothing works and the speed feedback is fluctuating a lot and we confirm that this is due to noise and do not know any new ways of eliminating this - please suggest some corrective actions you have done or based on your best experiences so far. Regards.

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Speed sensor - possible noise problem

02/04/2006 11:34 PM

Hi Radha, Q1. what type of speed sensors are used? (eg, infra red reflective, hall effect, rotational encoder...?) Q2. What are the characteristics of the fluctuations observed during operation? Do they match 50 - 60 Hz frequencies? Or are the fluctuations randomized? Q3. Are the signal wires to the sensors routed the same as they exit the position of the sensors? Are they 2 wire or 3 wire sensors?

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Re:Speed sensor - possible noise problem

02/05/2006 1:07 PM

Covector's question is valid, although I would require more information. Rotating mass and RPM as well as level of magnatude of vibration. Location of sensors in relation to source of vibration. Is the wiring connection to the sensors connected via factory pigtail or via direct terminal connection on the wiring harness. Guage,length and capacitance of wiring in relationship to signal level and frequency. Sensity and dampening capabilty of instrumentation. Other factors can determined once these basic questions are answered.

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speed sensor

02/05/2006 8:19 PM

hall effect IC will solve your problem I think or perhaps a magnetic pick-up.

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Re:speed sensor

02/06/2006 8:35 AM

In my experience, the speed sensor was mounted on the accessory gear box. This being the case, the routing of the cable from the pickup to the module was critical. This is, of course dependant on the rotating parts and any EMI generated by them, such as the electro-mechanical govorner in the Allison 501-K34 generator set. I would first look at the wire routing, as that may be the easiest and least expensive problem to fix. Then I would look at other pickup options that use a different signal form.

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