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Oxygen Purity Problem in PSA Oxygen Generator

11/07/2007 8:47 AM

We are using a PSA oxygen generator unit for our glass ampoule manufacturig unit. The oxygen plant runs in auto mode and manul mode. When we run in maual we get pure oxygen but when it is run in auto (recomended) mode it loses purity after some time. We asked the manufacturer, he is of the view that purity will be disturbed when we try to get more then the designed parameters like flow and pressure while we think we are not. The plant is designed to give 4baroxygen pressure. Capacity of the plant is more than our needs because in auto mode the plant do stop when oxygen tank is filled upto a limit pressure. It work exactly it should work but loses purity. Also if molecular sieve is faulty then it should not ever gain purity once it loses, thats what we also told. Now we request you to assist us in removing our following problem;

1. We have to set the oxygen manometer pressure at 4bar to get the desired pressure of flame at the machine. While for every other ampoule manufacturer the pressure setting need is about 2-3bar as oxygen needed for flame is of only 0.5 to 1.0bar. Why we have to set at high level pressure, where we could be wrong?

2. The oxygen piping used in the production hall is 1" dia while that which comes to machines is 1/4" (quarter dia). We have used 1/4" (quarter inch dia) pipe of about 15ft length from oxygen tank (that is designed for 1/2" dia) to the main 1" dia pipe in the production hall. Does it make any difference for drop of pressure so that we have to maintain high pressure at oxygen out put regulator? Our supplier is asking to change this pipe to make it all for 1"dia or 1/2" dia and then at machines it should be reduced to 1/4" (quarter inch) dia? By this he thinks the oxygen out pressure will not drop and plant will not lose purity as it will work within design limits. Is he right?

3. Every valve of the plant is working, dew point is maintained at 3deg (recommended).

We shall be grateful for your kind help and guidance in this regard.

Best regards.

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Re: Oxygen Purity Problem in PSA Oxygen Generator

11/07/2007 9:05 AM

<We have used 1/4" (quarter inch dia) pipe of about 15ft length from oxygen tank (that is designed for 1/2" dia) to the main 1" dia pipe in the production hall. Does it make any difference for drop of pressure so that we have to maintain high pressure at oxygen out put regulator?>

Well, that depends upon the flowrate in the pipe. If the rate of use of oxygen is high then there might be 4 barg at the regulator and only 2 barg in the main 1" pipe. Is there a gauge on the 1" pipe that could tell this?

As it's a relatively simple thing to do, try replacing the 1/4" pipe with something larger. 1/2" might be big enough. Go for 1" if you can. While you are at it, install a flowmeter in the line; a variable-area flowmeter would be the simplest though you will have to make sure that it is suitable for 100% oxygen service from the flowmeter supplier. With a pressure gauge on the 1" main and a flowmeter on the line feeding it you should be in a position to respond to the manufacturer's comments about 'pushing' the PSA generator beyond its design parameters and to see if this statement is correct.

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Re: Oxygen Purity Problem in PSA Oxygen Generator

11/08/2007 8:39 AM

well, thanks for your comments we are already in a process of changing piping to 1" dia and will let you know if that works after use.

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Re: Oxygen Purity Problem in PSA Oxygen Generator

11/08/2007 1:56 AM

if i see your P& ID diagram, i may answer your question, because i was operated N2 and H2 ( 2 bed and 4 bed) system using PSA bed .

most probably your valves may malfunctioned why i am telling this,

if you have any problem on maintaining pressure or flow even in manual mode as like auto mode, your pipeline size may be wrong, but it is not as u said.

my doubt is downstream valve of your system or pressure equalizing valve may malfunction in auto mode.or the air line to the actuator of the equalising valve may loose its pressure after some time . u please see it.

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Re: Oxygen Purity Problem in PSA Oxygen Generator

09/28/2009 10:47 AM

My advise is to use a professional service engineer; if you want we can send our service guy to fix the problem for you. Fill in the Service request form on our website www.oxywise.com.

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Re: Oxygen Purity Problem in PSA Oxygen Generator

03/10/2008 8:03 PM

If you are still experiencing this problem with the oxygen PSA please reply to

ricardorampersad@hotmail.com

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