Previous in Forum: How to Measure the Current of a Normal 12 V DC Motor?   Next in Forum: Unusual Old Brick
Close
Close
Close
91 comments
Rate Comments: Nested
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817

Is Nio the New Tesla

03/30/2021 5:04 PM

1000 km is 621 miles....Tesla's longest range model the Model S Long Range Plus, is 402 miles...

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Interested in this topic? By joining CR4 you can "subscribe" to
this discussion and receive notification when new comments are added.

Good Answers:

These comments received enough positive votes to make them "good answers".

"Almost" Good Answers:

Check out these comments that don't yet have enough votes to be "official" good answers and, if you agree with them, vote them!
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#1

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

03/30/2021 5:31 PM

..."Chief Executive William Li said Nio's new battery technology will give the ET7 a drive range of over 1,000 km (621 miles) between charges. The starting price will be 378,000 yuan ($58,378) for the car without the battery pack, one of the most expensive EV components, which can then be leased from the company."...Jan 9, 2021

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nio-china-idUSKBN29E0H5

"Nio plans to charge the equivalent of about $140 a month (at current exchange rates) for the battery subscription—with no battery included in return for $10,100 off the vehicle's sale price."

"NIO said the fee includes six battery swaps a month. "

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
2
Guru

Join Date: May 2018
Location: Under the spreading Bunya Trees, South Burnett, Queensland, Australia
Posts: 807
Good Answers: 65
#5
In reply to #1

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/01/2021 4:31 AM

I see they have learnt from Microsoft, you can buy the hardware but what you need to run it will be owned by them and subscribed to you and they will make changes as they see fit.

__________________
Hare today, goon tomorrow!
Register to Reply Good Answer (Score 2)
Guru

Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: About 4000 miles from the center of the earth (+/-100 mi)
Posts: 9910
Good Answers: 1141
#2

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

03/31/2021 9:12 AM

It seems everything nowadays is "Batteries not included".

Register to Reply
2
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#3
In reply to #2

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

03/31/2021 4:27 PM

Yeah but multi-hour battery charging can't compete with a 10 minute battery bank changeout...providing of course you can find a changeout station conveniently located...

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply Good Answer (Score 2)
Guru

Join Date: May 2018
Location: Under the spreading Bunya Trees, South Burnett, Queensland, Australia
Posts: 807
Good Answers: 65
#6
In reply to #3

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/01/2021 4:33 AM

And it hasn't run out of battery modules, still I suppose in that instance a barbed wire canoe and paddle is provided.

__________________
Hare today, goon tomorrow!
Register to Reply
Guru
Hobbies - DIY Welding - Wannabeabettawelda

Join Date: May 2007
Location: Annapolis, Maryland
Posts: 7940
Good Answers: 458
#4
In reply to #2

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/01/2021 1:21 AM

Like the Mercedes AA-Class automobiles?

Register to Reply Score 1 for Good Answer
Power-User

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: London NE, UK
Posts: 153
Good Answers: 10
#7

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/01/2021 4:33 AM

China is a fascinating and in some ways an inspiring country but it does have a dark side (ref Hong Kongs 'democracy' and the Uyghurs 're-education').

I wonder what 'extras' have had to be included in the cars control software as a result of the Chinese governments bail-out?

Register to Reply
4
Guru
Popular Science - Weaponology - New Member Engineering Fields - Engineering Physics - New Member Engineering Fields - Nuclear Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: No. VA, USA (No, it does NOTu mean "won't go"!)
Posts: 1796
Good Answers: 75
#8

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/01/2021 8:19 AM

And let's not forget, Tesla tells the truth about the range of their vehicles, and we can test that ourselves , but this Nio is Chinese. And we know already that the Chinese government has lied about everything over the last few years, so why would they not lie about this also? And for anyone who wonders whether they really have lied, they have expressed in writing and in Words Their desperation to displace all other governments, but particularly the United States government , as the pre-eminent world power. And this is just one more place where in commercial Enterprise they think they can. But they have no compunction to be honest, and they have no concern for anyone being able to test their claims.

__________________
Been away a while. Miss all my old friends. Some of you I KNOW are still around. Where are the rest?
Register to Reply Good Answer (Score 4)
Guru

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Madison, WI.
Posts: 2074
Good Answers: 77
#9
In reply to #8

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/01/2021 12:07 PM

My how the tables have turned. Your screed could have easily been written about America in the 1800's when we were becoming a world power. Now we are an also ran held back by regressive, repressive idiots who think that white nationalism will save them. China is the largest economy and has a good 100 years of growth ahead of it. They already have displaced America at the top of the heep as you can see by how worthless our protests are in regard to what China does. Think South China Sea. Just like everyones protests about America were worthless 100 years ago. Its simple numbers. We will not be able to compete as our market is only a third of theirs and our philosophy is not a progressive one. Reaganomics sent most of our industrial capacity to China along with our money. But just look at how rich our rich people got. Doesnt that make you proud that you cant earn enough to pay your rent or afford to see a doctor? And then there's India. If and when they get their s*** straightened out, look out.

__________________
Knowing is the end result of learning, not believing.
Register to Reply
4
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#25
In reply to #9

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/05/2021 11:30 AM

I don't agree with any of that, you seem to be pitching an agenda that has no basis in reality...China does not have the largest economy, we as a country are not being held back by anything, other than this nasty virus...Union wages sent jobs to China, not Reagan....and India is an ally of the US and other democratic countries...Your rant is mostly jibberish and the rest is fantasy...

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply Good Answer (Score 4)
Guru

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Madison, WI.
Posts: 2074
Good Answers: 77
#27
In reply to #25

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/05/2021 4:33 PM

This surprises no one.

__________________
Knowing is the end result of learning, not believing.
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 2004
Good Answers: 31
#31
In reply to #25

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/06/2021 5:31 AM

India is smarter than you think or believe. They are also allies of Russia and are smart enough to know what side the bread is buttered. Like Britain, the empire struck back, and so too, the USA had its day. China is not far behind in having the largest economy in the world and by the time this 'Rona is over, they will have overtaken the US. Perhaps his jibberish and fantasy is not far off from reality.

Register to Reply
Guru
Hobbies - DIY Welding - Wannabeabettawelda

Join Date: May 2007
Location: Annapolis, Maryland
Posts: 7940
Good Answers: 458
#26
In reply to #9

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/05/2021 3:40 PM

You could live there and enjoy it in person.

Register to Reply
Power-User

Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 227
Good Answers: 11
#62
In reply to #9

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/10/2021 4:12 AM

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's that they know so much that isn't so." — Ronald Reagan

Conservatives don't believe "white nationalism" will save the United States; skin color and ancestry have nothing to do with conservatism. Your slanderous characterization of America at the time you wrote this was not supported by the facts. A restoration of the freedoms once considered guaranteed by the Constitution is the conservative goal. In the days when America's economy grew faster than any other before or since, the federal government was one of the smallest sectors of the economy and got along just fine on excises and import duties. But in recent decades, high tax rates and burdensome regulations drove jobs out of the country (not "Reaganomics"). President Trump reversed that trend by signing the tax reform act of 2017 and doing a long-overdue housecleaning of regulations. The booming pre-COVID-19 economy, held back primarily by labor and capital shortages, was proof of the the efficacy of his policies.

Unfortunately, we now have a regime built around a toxic combination of "progressivism" and anti-Trumpism; its objective seems to be undoing all of the good President Trump did so America will be less competitive with the globalist multinational interests. Its spendthrift Marxist-lite policies will sooner or later plunge us into Grecian-style stagnation and malaise, if not into a collapse like Venezuela's. I saw it happen under Jimmy Carter, and it will be much worse this time.

As for measuring ability to compete based on market size, I would point out that in the era of mechanical watches, tiny Switzerland dominated the world market by producing products of superior quality and technology. "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog."

Switzerland was not particularly "progressive" either. Progressivism is the deliberate introduction of economically inefficient policies that feel good but in the long run are impractical and harmful to its supposed beneficiaries. Read "Stealing From Each Other: How the Welfare State is Robbing Americans of Money and Spirit" by Edgar K. Browning, PhD. Thomas Sowell and Daniel Patrick Moynihan have also addressed this in depth. Benjamin Franklin recognized the error of progressivism even before this nation was founded, and wrote "On the Price of Corn, and Management of the Poor" in the 1760s based on his first-hand observations of British welfare programs.

Register to Reply Off Topic (Score 6)
Guru

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Madison, WI.
Posts: 2074
Good Answers: 77
#70
In reply to #62

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/12/2021 10:16 AM

The problem with Ronald Reagan was he was NOT a Republican. He was a Plutocrat. AKA NeoCon. There is nothing conservative about unfunding American services to give tax breaks to the already wealthy. There is nothing conservative in running up a trillion dollar debt to your enemy China. There is nothing conservative about busting unions. There is nothing conservative about rigging elections.

In a growing country there will NEVER be smaller government. More people mean more services means more government to provide and regulate those services. More People means more roads means more snowplows means more mowing means more and more means MORE OF EVERYTHING not less...... 5 year olds know this, whats your excuse?

Sen, Daniel Patrick Moynahan:
"In America you are entitled to your own opinion, not your own facts."

__________________
Knowing is the end result of learning, not believing.
Register to Reply Off Topic (Score 5)
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#71
In reply to #70

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/12/2021 11:36 AM

Here's an example of the effects of your liberal open borders policy...

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply Score 1 for Off Topic
Guru

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Madison, WI.
Posts: 2074
Good Answers: 77
#72
In reply to #71

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/12/2021 12:01 PM

That you would willingly believe anything that PROVEN liar says tell me all I need to know about your thought processes. You will cling to any lie that validates what you want to believe. Yes, we see you clearly.

__________________
Knowing is the end result of learning, not believing.
Register to Reply Score 1 for Off Topic
Power-User

Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 227
Good Answers: 11
#76
In reply to #70

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/12/2021 5:00 PM

"There is nothing conservative about unfunding American services to give tax breaks to the already wealthy. "

This is evidence you do not understand conservatism. By "American services" I take it you mean federal government programs. I refer you to Article I, Section 8 of the U. S. Constitution, which together with certain amendments, enumerates the powers granted to the the federal government, and to the Tenth Amendment, which defines our right to a limited federal government. "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people." Most of what the federal government has been doing since the days of Lyndon Johnson is in direct violation of the Tenth Amendment, including just about all of the Departments of Health and Human Services, and Housing and Urban Development. President Reagan tried to reduce the increase in funding of these unconstitutional departments, but Congress would not permit that.

Tax cuts are desirable whenever high rates unduly hamper the economy and thereby reduce total tax revenue, or whenever the government collects more revenue than it needs. Soaking the rich is not conservative; it is Marxism! Conservatism recognizes that the proceeds of labor and investment belong first to the laborer and investor, not the government. Placing a disproportionate burden of funding the government on the wealthy has several very negative effects. It takes money away from investment in research and development, creation or expansion of production and the creation of employment opportunities for others. Heavy taxation of the wealthy pushes the wealthy to be more politically active than they otherwise would be, and to use some of their wealth for political influence to protect the rest. In the worst case, which we now have, the wealthy buy political power for themselves, and use their influence to impede the progress of potential economic competitors.

Presently, 0.1% of taxpayers pay 10% of federal taxes, and 10% of taxpayers pay 50% of federal taxes. A similar disproportion existed in Reagan's tenure, even after TEFRA.

A key principle of conservatism is the rule of law. The Professional Air Traffic Controllers Organization violated the law and their contract when they went on strike. President Reagan was upholding the law when he fired the entire union (that was affirmed in federal court when PATCO sued and lost).

It is not necessarily true that government must grow in proportion to population. In particular, the federal government as envisioned in the Constitution is designed not to do so; other than in the size of Congress and perhaps the military needed for the common defense. Nor does a larger population necessarily need more services, although it may need larger services. In any case, services to the people are supposed to be state and local considerations, except for revenue collection, postal services and immigration. A government that does not employ economies of scale or technological improvements in productivity to avoid unnecessary growth is inefficient and negligent in its use of the taxpayers' money.

I don't need to make an excuse for having a different opinion of government. I daresay I know at least as much about history, economics and political science as you do; I've been actively studying and using those subjects for over half a century.

Register to Reply Off Topic (Score 4)
Guru

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Madison, WI.
Posts: 2074
Good Answers: 77
#81
In reply to #76

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/13/2021 3:40 PM

A man raised by Senator Evertt Dirksen not understanding conservatism? YOU ARE NOT ONLY WRONG BUT JOHN BIRCH INSANE!

Save your protestations for your next Qanon meeting. Where no one cares but won't say it to your face. Here we say BYE BYE.

__________________
Knowing is the end result of learning, not believing.
Register to Reply Off Topic (Score 6)
Guru

Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 2004
Good Answers: 31
#82
In reply to #76

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/13/2021 4:34 PM

While off topic and someone may have the answer. I am seriously concerned with your government. What is this proposal put forward by some woman named Yelland who is insisting the Europe pays the same rate of taxes that the USA pays?

I see no reason she should be insisting on this as Europe has their own taxation system and frankly, it seems that the USA wants to run the world again and dictate to an already over regulated system. This proposal includes the UK. If any one has info on this I would like to know. Seems like more Socialism is on the cards from what I have heard so far.

Any info I would like to hear on this, Thanks

Register to Reply Off Topic (Score 5)
Guru

Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 2004
Good Answers: 31
#83
In reply to #82

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/14/2021 9:51 AM

No worry. I eventually found the information after getting a link from another. Company Taxes they are after now at 28%. The socialist have taken over, just like the greenies, and want to rule the world. Do unto others......before they do you!

Register to Reply Off Topic (Score 5)
Power-User

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: London NE, UK
Posts: 153
Good Answers: 10
#84
In reply to #83

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/14/2021 9:58 AM

I think the idea is to have an agreed global minimum Corporation Tax so that the large global players (Google, Amazon, etc) cannot escape contributing to the communities they leech off by locating their headquarters to a low tax country. The proposed minimum tax rate I have read about is expected to land somewhere in the high teens not 28%.

Register to Reply Off Topic (Score 5)
Guru

Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 2004
Good Answers: 31
#85
In reply to #84

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/14/2021 10:13 AM

Yep, that is exactly what it is about. It was not reported clearly or well in our news and what was heard was, That "Yelland is insisting that Europe pays the same tax as the US. It will be discussed at the next meeting". Since, nothing has been reported further and no follow up offered. It was a bit smoke and mirrors and getting anything on the net was worthless. A friend new about this and sent me a link which got me into the news feeds

https://www.ft.com/content/847c5f77-f0af-4787-8c8e-070ac6a7c74f

I can understand this idea, clearly the USA is broke and needs the money, but why they are leading this and insisting the EU and UK comply is beyond me. Its now meddling in policies that have nothing to do with the USA. As usual, the sell of easy money and all the dogs sniff around. Capitalist socialists. It works in Sweden so why not the USA, i guess.

Register to Reply Off Topic (Score 5)
Guru

Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 2004
Good Answers: 31
#86
In reply to #84

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/14/2021 10:28 AM

Further thought: After all, London offers cheaper rental rates to big business's to take up floor space, than outside London. An attractive costs for overseas companies to move there and create jobs. Many countries offer tax incentives to set up business's in their countries to attract investment. Like Rwanda, Morocco, Poland, India. So these big corporate's will just move to another country where tax is lower and that country will benefit from the investment and job creations. Like Virgin air, they moved to Switzerland, if I recall, to save on tax.

As in all business, someone will loose and someone will win, the consumer will pay and I doubt the expectation will be what they assume it will be. The BVI needs the business, so does Malta and many other countries. Interesting.

Register to Reply Off Topic (Score 5)
Power-User

Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: North Carolina, USA
Posts: 423
Good Answers: 9
#11
In reply to #8

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/01/2021 2:10 PM

Well, recent testing shows that Tesla may have exaggerated a bit on their range claims so the only absolute truth is "Your results may vary".

However - I fully believe a Chinese manufacturer in good standing with the Chinese government will lie in their marketing materials to show (allege) superiority to non-Chinese competition.

Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Madison, WI.
Posts: 2074
Good Answers: 77
#14
In reply to #11

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/01/2021 3:07 PM

This is why I find it so funny that people OOOHHH CHINA LIES!!! like they just discovered penicillin or something.

Get a clue fools. Big Companies Lie. ALL THE TIME. Its part of their business model. Truth is not as profitable. Being humane is not as profitable. Being responsible is not as profitable. Screwing the customer, the employee, the taxing entity, thats how you make billionaires. IOW, slavery. Most profitable form of labor management and Amazon has not strayed far from that formula. Keep em poor, keep em hungry, keep em dependant, abuse them. Make money.

__________________
Knowing is the end result of learning, not believing.
Register to Reply Score 1 for Off Topic
Guru

Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 2004
Good Answers: 31
#17
In reply to #8

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/03/2021 3:44 AM

Hmm! Common sense tells us all that the West sat back and assumed their dominance over the world. You gave them all the power to manage your products and still the west sat back in your glory.

The next country to give the west a good smack down will be India and soon the west will be dancing to the beggars tunes. The west has lied for far too long and we have been manipulated to follow suit. If the company has produced a car cheaper than Tesla, with a longer range than Tesla and other manufacturers, then good luck to them. It will fit comfortably with all the other items in ones household that are "Made In China".

Register to Reply
2
Guru

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: 44.56024"N 15.307971E
Posts: 8277
Good Answers: 270
#20
In reply to #8

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/03/2021 2:05 PM

IMHO:This is the response after first 6 months:

"So Sorry!So Sorry! Someting wost in twanswation.

Decimal in wong pwace.

Should say 100.0 Km.

We not wesponsible for pwinter errors.

Many apowogees to you."

__________________
"A man never stands so tall as when he stoops to help a child." "Never argue with a stupid person.They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience" "To create an apple pie from scratch, first you must create a universe"
Register to Reply Good Answer (Score 2)
Guru

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Madison, WI.
Posts: 2074
Good Answers: 77
#10

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/01/2021 12:17 PM

And then there is the 2021's from the US automakers. A very depressing line up of has beens and never wases along with huge trucks no one actually needs burning tons of gasoline and emitting tons of polution. Not economical, not evironmentally friendly, not even good for our own immediate health. But facts be damned, we're Americans and have a right to be stupid. Detroits five year projections released in earnings calls show a complete reliance on ICE and only lipservice to electic vehicles in America. Not so in Europe and China where Ford and Chevy are seeking partnerships to remain relevant in the bigger markets without upsetting their oil company friends here at home. Chysler just capitulated and sold to a European company, Stellantis, because American mangement is not going to make the changes necessary to keep the brand alive. Marchon proved that. Basically American companies are still selling the same vehicles they sold in the 1950's just minus the style, panache, and the fins.

__________________
Knowing is the end result of learning, not believing.
Register to Reply Score 1 for Off Topic
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#12
In reply to #10

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/01/2021 2:17 PM

These are Nio 6 and 8, not the new 7 with the solid state battery banks....

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#13
In reply to #12

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/01/2021 2:36 PM
__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#16
In reply to #12

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/01/2021 9:50 PM

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Madison, WI.
Posts: 2074
Good Answers: 77
#15

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/01/2021 3:14 PM
__________________
Knowing is the end result of learning, not believing.
Register to Reply Score 1 for Off Topic
Power-User

Join Date: May 2017
Location: Houston the Emerald City that would be Oz, TX serving art collectors and patrons worldwide
Posts: 224
Good Answers: 8
#18

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/03/2021 11:25 AM

"Is Nio the New Tesla"

No.

More like: "Is the Nio the New P.T. Barnum?"

IF you believe the milage figures there's a bridge in NYC for you; as for the battery scam "a fool and his money..." AND I betcha-betcha it can only be charged by a Nio charger which they will gladly rent to you or at a service location they lease to a franchisee.

__________________
To get anywhere fast the first thing you do is go off in the wrong direction.
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#19
In reply to #18

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/03/2021 12:39 PM
__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Power-User

Join Date: May 2017
Location: Houston the Emerald City that would be Oz, TX serving art collectors and patrons worldwide
Posts: 224
Good Answers: 8
#21
In reply to #19

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/03/2021 7:11 PM

Went to the website and I was wrong . They won't sell you a charger nor will they franchise out charging stations. They will however, and only they can, sell you the charge. Same-same in my book. (Nowhere on the webpage do the say their proprietary charging is an added cost item or what that cost is, but as my eminently successful very excellent Chinese businesswomen would say "They're Chinese" and the Chinese monetize everything including the tail of the pig.)

__________________
To get anywhere fast the first thing you do is go off in the wrong direction.
Register to Reply
2
Guru
Popular Science - Weaponology - New Member Engineering Fields - Engineering Physics - New Member Engineering Fields - Nuclear Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: No. VA, USA (No, it does NOTu mean "won't go"!)
Posts: 1796
Good Answers: 75
#22

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/04/2021 7:44 AM

Rashverak and IQ seem to think it's great fun to trash all things Western and all things American. Of course there have been dishonest American businesses, but there is no government of America paying businesses to lie. That certainly is the pattern of the Chinese government. So, you think that it's time for EVS, great if you have the money to buy multiple vehicles, and can afford to keep paying out day after day after day for the use of those vehicles in extreme amounts of money. It's kind of like the old lease the vehicle and save taxes scam. It's worked for very few, and only those who have money to burn. So, for those of you who are insistent on green now, I will say what I said in a different scenario, in a different thread, all those businesses who tout how green they are, explain to me why your product doesn't work as well as the existing product and costs three to five times as much! If you want to sell it, make it work, and make it work at a reasonable price, and then I'll buy it. That day may be coming, but I'll wait for it. For you who merely need an excuse to trash the West, and two trash America if you are American, I would advise you do either look to yourselves and look to your own country, or quit enjoying the good that America brings and move on. If you don't live here, and you aren't enjoying the largesse of being American, then you can Trash my country. And I'm not certain about IQ, but Rashverak claims to be an American. I served this country in the military and I served his country and its government , and I disagree with a lot of what this country is done but I don't take pleasure in that and I don't take Glee in bad-mouthing it. And I don't have any problem with the epithets you may want to throw my way because I do take umbrage at those who do take Glee in bad-mouthing my country. It may be old-fashioned, but I don't plan on changing it anytime soon.

__________________
Been away a while. Miss all my old friends. Some of you I KNOW are still around. Where are the rest?
Register to Reply Good Answer (Score 2)
Guru

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Madison, WI.
Posts: 2074
Good Answers: 77
#23
In reply to #22

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/05/2021 11:01 AM

Jingoism isn't going to keep us competetive in the world market where we are not Number one. Only being realistic about our place in the world and through utilizing our unique strengths will we remain relevant. Making billionaires is all Ameica has done for the last 60 years and our entire country shows this. From crumbling last century infrastructure to cities that look like something from the dark ages compared to the major civic centers of the world. To our cars.

Complaining about it will not change the fact that resting on ones laurels is a losing proposition.

__________________
Knowing is the end result of learning, not believing.
Register to Reply Score 1 for Off Topic
Guru

Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 2004
Good Answers: 31
#42
In reply to #22

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/06/2021 5:00 PM

Micahd2. One thing I learned many years ago when I travelled the world for the first time and living the simplest life possible in some countries that were rougher than a bears a'. The only thing the west had done was create more poverty and invade more countries to set up there own interests. Just like the Brits did when they had an empire. They all had common goals, steal the riches, get rich quick, treat people like slaves, and exploit everything possible. Including language, knowledge, people.

You say there is no government of America paying business's to lie. Clearly you have no idea how much the US dollar is handed out in Africa for 'misleading information', which in my books, is a lie. Britain is also guilty of this 'charity work', but it is normal for all dogs to work together to hunt and feast.

Every news channel I see is dominated by America doing something they should not be doing. Meddling in another country or manipulating currencies so that the good old USA can have cheaper goods. My my, your navy even tried to interfere with the Suez canal blockage as it seems only Captain America and his Justice League are capable of saving the world. It really is not true. The world needs saving from America. It is all a chess game. We are merely pawns on the board. The world can get along without America and most people, about 99%, just want to have a life and peace and put food on a table and work and enjoy their family lives. Most people are happy with their lot in life and want to be comfortable living.

If America put as much money into their infrastructure as they do military hardware and stayed home, it would be a super place to reside. Sadly, you have just as much poverty as many other countries. America did not live up to ts made out reputation for me, so I left. But your patriotism was overwhelming, pity people did not understand patriotism is saving your country from the government.

As for the jist, electric vehicles is a new phase that all will end up suffering from, set up by your American companies mostly. As usual, leading the world to what they want us to have so that they have a market for export goods. Sweden just loves your 2nd hand cars and Harley's. There are probably more American built cars in Sweden than in America. Sweden must be Harley's No 1 country of choice.

Being in the power industry, there is not one single country who can support the infrastructure to supply enough power to feed these vehicles and homes and industry, (if industry ever picks up after this stupid pandemic). But one thing is guaranteed, you will see decimated landscape filled with useless solar panels, lakes filled with floating solar panels, farm lands and sea shores filled with wind farms and cable trenches spanning miles of land to feed the loads needed. And it only lasts a few years. America is full of useless wind farms that need to be taken down and recycling is useless as electric vehicles are all plastic. Currently New York has the highest earth fault currents, rated at 100 000kA. Just how are they going to manage higher earth faults? Also, most batteries only charge to 80% capacity over a few hours, to charge a battery fully on a Tesla actually takes a few days, not hours. It takes a few minutes to charge up a petrol or diesel vehicle.

The next buzz word will be Hydrogen vehicles because electricity will be far to expensive. Your 5.2l Mustang will rot in a garage and be worthless, but it will be on par with buying a Chinese electric car, with a better battery swap out contract of $140 per month, but it will just be another throw away item, built of plastic and gadgets that are linked by 5G, that can be hacked by your local law officers and any smart IT lad and your privacy will be owned by some corporation, run by a foreigner in Europe.

'I do take umbrage at those who do take Glee in bad-mouthing my country'. We too take umbrage, mostly silently, but not this time. 'It's great to have free speech, but god help anyone who disagrees with what I say'.

So step back, travel the world a bit more, rough it. Make some discoveries as to where your knowledge came from. See from another perspective. You will be amazed. You were but a colony of Britain not so long ago, and they stole as much from everyone as possible.

Good luck Elon, I'm sure South Africa misses your input and money, America loves you too. Just not all of us have to.

Register to Reply
Guru
Engineering Fields - Mechanical Engineering - Ever Changing United States - Member - From the Redwoods to the Valleys Engineering Fields - Control Engineering - Building blocks or writing code - to keep you comfortable

Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: 38th Parallel
Posts: 750
Good Answers: 19
#59
In reply to #22

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/09/2021 10:25 AM

OoRAHHhhh!

To serve was an honor and thank you for your service as well.

It seems to escape most in the world that when altercations occurred the young men an women of this great nation stepped in and spilled their blood to better the life's of many (from countries and families we did not know of) or stop the tragedy of more death by use of correctional force with our allies and with THEIR direction to stop what would have been 5 times the global death if not stopped.

It is easy how often good things are forgotten in the name of power and greed. I do miss Trump. America has fallen back into its grab for power and greed with this administration as it was from 2008 on to 2016.

Semper Fidelis, all.

__________________
To be or not to be........ok that's a trick question.
Register to Reply Score 1 for Good Answer
Guru

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Madison, WI.
Posts: 2074
Good Answers: 77
#24

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/05/2021 11:17 AM

The picture is clear.

https://www.gmc.com/electric/hummer

This does not exist. It is a GMC wet Dream and we are all cheering the soiled sheets?

I cheer when one passes me on the road, not before.

Meanwhile, ever heard of Skoda? Not exactly new and definitely not anywhere near as big or rich as GM.

BUT, You don't need a reservation.

long_train_transporting_skoda_enyaq_ivs_spotted

more info,

https://www.motor1.com/news/441903/2021-skoda-enyaq-iv-reveal

I can drop link after link for electric cars from all over the world that are on sale today. Thousands of them. Batteries are not an issue for companies other than Ford and GM, strange that.

The only place that still has its head in the oil sands is America. Not because we lack ingenuity or creativity or skills and abilities. No, it is because we are beholden to the oil industry. We are owned lock stock and barrel by muslims who own the oil. Want to stop fighting wars in the middle east? Here's your exit strategy.

Some may think I am a crazy Tesla Fanboi. I am not. I am very pleased that Tesla Forced the issue in America. As you can see the transition to EV's world wide has been ongoing for 20 years. Tesla's mission was not to become a car maker but to force the issue. Force GM and Ford to admit they were not keeping up and were allowing America to fall behind in the one area we have ALWAYS been the leader of.

BTW it was also to stuff in their faces the LIE that EVs are not profitable. When you base you existence on a lie you have doomed yourself.

__________________
Knowing is the end result of learning, not believing.
Register to Reply Score 1 for Off Topic
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#28
In reply to #24

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/05/2021 4:55 PM

EV's still mostly suck because they are too expensive and they take too long to charge...You can buy 4 or 5 Toyota's for the price of a Tesla, and they only take a few minutes to fuel up, and there's a place to fuel up every block or so....If EV's were so great they wouldn't have to pay people to buy them...Only greenwashed liberals consider them to be a good investment....

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Power-User

Join Date: May 2017
Location: Houston the Emerald City that would be Oz, TX serving art collectors and patrons worldwide
Posts: 224
Good Answers: 8
#29
In reply to #28

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/05/2021 6:58 PM

EV's suck because there is little or no infrastructure for them AND the Great American quantity of scale hasn't hit yet keeping production prices in the custom built bracket. Ford and GM are late to the party, BUT Ford at least has figured out there is a marketplace that needs feeding. It will be long time coming until the one size fits all approach of the last 100 years of fossil fuel powered vehicles transforms to a replacement of F-power by E-power. Until then, whether you or rashavarek likes it or not, it will be more and more "best fit" to the application marketplace.

In a parallel world: Right today we are evaluating the "best fit" of solar or grid source for powering the integrated COB-LED lighting in one of our sculptures. (Just so you know incandescent and the various vapors are a complete and total fail for this application.) Each has it's yin and each has it's yang, but one of them will be best according to the matrix of criteria that comes with the sculpture it's self and the site-location where it's to be installed.

__________________
To get anywhere fast the first thing you do is go off in the wrong direction.
Register to Reply
Anonymous Poster #1
#30
In reply to #29

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/06/2021 5:16 AM

https://carpart.com.au/blog/car-part-world-news/14-countries-banning-fossil-fuel-vehicles-norway-leads-in-2025

No where have I seen details on where any government, in any country, has asked the public about there grand plans of forcing everyone to drive electric vehicles. I see lots of greenies telling us how to live our lives, I have yet to see one petrol head stand up and have a say. Clearly, Democracy at work.

It will be the usual, wait until the last minute, a flurry of moaning, a glut of petrol cars being given away for scrap, and go with the sheep.

The squeaky wheel syndrome. While the world scenery becomes wind farms, solar panel fields and batteries and the environment goes to heck in a hand basket. So just where will they get all the electricity they need? Load shedding and alternate days to have electricity. Your power bank?

In essence, all the saving will result in all the pollution arriving from Africa, China, Indonesia, in a jet stream and the west will clean that up.

Electric vehicles are just the new flavour of the month, the new buzz words. And the band wagon is playing Stars and Stripes. Get an electric car, buy a mobility scooter.

Register to Reply Score 1 for Good Answer
Power-User

Join Date: May 2017
Location: Houston the Emerald City that would be Oz, TX serving art collectors and patrons worldwide
Posts: 224
Good Answers: 8
#35
In reply to #30

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/06/2021 11:07 AM

The only force that matters is the marketplace. I can distinctly remember, circa 2005, the only solar power in Texas were ranch gate openers. Fast forward to 2021 and in the same-same area of Texas they are today expanding the solar farm located there to be the biggest in both the Americas. We have grid solar at our house, not out of some greenie kumbaya, but because it is by far the cheapest. Yeah Texas the oil capital of the planet leads North America in solar and wind power.

FYI: the guys and girls who work the green power plantations live in and work in the same small cities as the hands that work the still thriving O&G fields.

__________________
To get anywhere fast the first thing you do is go off in the wrong direction.
Register to Reply
Guru
Popular Science - Weaponology - New Member Engineering Fields - Engineering Physics - New Member Engineering Fields - Nuclear Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: No. VA, USA (No, it does NOTu mean "won't go"!)
Posts: 1796
Good Answers: 75
#32
In reply to #24

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/06/2021 8:38 AM

In an earlier post, you called us fools for not buying EV's, or EV technology. Evie's and Evie technology are expensive. So don't expect a good result would you call me a fool for not having or spending the kind of money you seem to love having in spending! And no other argument you make will change the fact that we don't all have your apparently abundant wealth.

__________________
Been away a while. Miss all my old friends. Some of you I KNOW are still around. Where are the rest?
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Madison, WI.
Posts: 2074
Good Answers: 77
#33
In reply to #32

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/06/2021 10:04 AM

The world is changing daily and since you all missed it, Oils day ended last century for a number of reasons. Only America is not numbered among the first world countries making this transition. Problem with that? We should be leading. This is my AMERICANISM talking. My we shouldn't be playing second fiddle to anyone in this field speaking. We should not be listening to dinosaurs talking that should have been buried already, AND IN A FREE MARKET WOULD HAVE BEEN BURIED LONG AGO. Autos especially,is one place we should never be second place.

And yes, atleast Ford has figured out they need to start working that way and are doing so with their mainstream sales leaders not compliance cars and niche vehicles only Schwarzenegger can afford like GM's current philosophy.

Just because you don't want to acknowledge reality doesn't mean it won't happen. Ok, maybe if you put your fingers in your ears and hum really loud while cutting off your internet, because its new and modern and invented by liberals to undermine white superiority and therefore evil, electricity, plumbing, and telephone, then you can happily live out your days not be bothered by the fact that we are a quarter of the way through the 21st century and Reagan is no longer president.

__________________
Knowing is the end result of learning, not believing.
Register to Reply Score 1 for Off Topic
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#34
In reply to #33

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/06/2021 10:32 AM

The first cars were electric...

"According to Jalopnik, the first attempts at electric vehicles were as early as the 1830s. But the first full-sized EV wasn’t developed until 1895. It was a six person wagon that had a top speed of 15 mph, or 22 km/h.

Over the next few years, other manufacturers followed suit, including Ferdinand Porsche. He manufactured an EV called the Lohner Porsche in 1898 — 33 years before establishing the Porsche company. He also developed a hybrid electric and combustion engine car in 1900 called the Semper Vivus.

The popularity of EVs rose over the next decade. According to the U.S. Energy department, EVs made up a third of the U.S. car market at the turn of the twentieth century — along with gasoline and steam powered vehicles. There was even a fleet of EV taxis in New York City.

Part of the reason for the success of EVs at the time seems to have come down to convenience. Unlike today, petrol-powered motors cars were said to be noisy and emitted smelly fumes.

They were also difficult to operate as they needed a hand crank to start and gear changes were difficult. Steam-powered cars reportedly had a similar issue with convenience and could take up to 45 minutes to start.

Comparatively, EVs didn’t have as much vibration or road noise and had a longer range than its steam powered counterpart.

Why electric vehicles disappeared

Despite enjoying a few decades of popularity, electric vehicles were eventually replaced by petrol motor vehicles — and this most mostly due to pricing.

Henry Ford released his Ford Model T in 1912 and thanks to a combustion petrol engine and mass production, it was a third of the price of an EV at the time. According to Tech Insider the Model T cost around $US650, with an electric roadster coming in at about $US1,750."...and it's still the same story today...

https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2020/06/electric-vehicle-history-ev-ford-tesla/

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Madison, WI.
Posts: 2074
Good Answers: 77
#36
In reply to #34

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/06/2021 12:38 PM

"Mostly due to pricing." Er, not really.

Mostly due to deceptive marketing which Ford was famous for.

The initial cost of the EV is higher. True.

The long term cost of ownership and use is much higher for ICE vehicles. It's just they nickle and dime you to death over time so you don't notice the actual real world cost of your 20,000 car just passed the 50,000 dollar mark.

__________________
Knowing is the end result of learning, not believing.
Register to Reply Score 1 for Off Topic
Power-User

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: London NE, UK
Posts: 153
Good Answers: 10
#37
In reply to #36

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/06/2021 12:57 PM

A premium priced product and recurring revenue - the Nirvana of astute manufacturers.

I doubt that EVs will be any different.

Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#38
In reply to #36

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/06/2021 1:23 PM

The cost of EV's is high now even with subsidies and incentives, the cost of electric, especially with only green sources, will continue to rise well beyond the price of gasoline...Wait till your electric bill surpasses your rent and see how you like it....then it will be too late...Not only will electric be unreliable and expensive, you will have eliminated your choices in the matter...because fossil fuels will have been outlawed...

"At the same time annual EV maintenance costs were estimated at $949 while ICE saw bills of $1,279 annually. However, taking into the AAA's cost of ownership methodology, including insurance, finance and, most crucially, depreciation, ICE comes out top as the value-for-money choice."Jan 22, 2020

https://www.tu-auto.com/evs-cost-more-to-own-than-ice-aaa-study-says/#:~:text=At%20the%20same%20time%20annual,value%2Dfor%2Dmoney%20choice

https://www.caranddriver.com/shopping-advice/a32494027/ev-vs-gas-cheaper-to-own/

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Guru
Popular Science - Weaponology - New Member Engineering Fields - Engineering Physics - New Member Engineering Fields - Nuclear Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: No. VA, USA (No, it does NOTu mean "won't go"!)
Posts: 1796
Good Answers: 75
#39
In reply to #38

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/06/2021 2:21 PM

Yep. But you won't convince rashvarik and you won't convince IQ and you won't convince anyone else in their school because their brains are green.

I do Wonder as a thinking engineer how they expect power to be generated to develop the electricity for their cars if fossil fuels aren't involved. Because no matter what we do we're only going to get just so much from the land available for solar and wind. And last year's storm in Texas kinda proves the point that solar only works when you have real nice weather. And since the wind Mills were frozen that kind of didn't work very well either.

__________________
Been away a while. Miss all my old friends. Some of you I KNOW are still around. Where are the rest?
Register to Reply Score 1 for Good Answer
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#40
In reply to #39

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/06/2021 2:36 PM

One day while sitting in their cold dark homes paying outrageous electric bills, they will realize that they were duped...but then it will be too late...

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Guru
Popular Science - Weaponology - New Member Engineering Fields - Engineering Physics - New Member Engineering Fields - Nuclear Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: No. VA, USA (No, it does NOTu mean "won't go"!)
Posts: 1796
Good Answers: 75
#41
In reply to #40

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/06/2021 3:05 PM

Yep. 100 W/square yard, with 100% insolation, and 90 degree impingement angle. Yeilds an average WITHOUT taking weather into account, but without directed gymballing tracking hardware (to keep it at 90 degrees in both x and y axes, of about 60 w/yd/hour. Not very efficient at all, and that plus installation, maintenance (you have to wash ALL the crud off the cells at least twice daily, more during pollen, rain, snow, ice, and migratory bird seasons, as well as repairing/replacing fragile cells) and panel/field replacement (people working on the solar power fields in TN surprised me when they said the cells suffer the same "droop rate" as LEDs, but due to heating by the sun (how ironic )) and its no wonder they all have to be subsidized by our tax dollars.

__________________
Been away a while. Miss all my old friends. Some of you I KNOW are still around. Where are the rest?
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#43
In reply to #41

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/07/2021 1:39 PM

Here's a couple that were able to do their own installation(guy is a commercial electrician) of a solar system for off grid of 13kw, cost $42,000....then they needed to add the lp fueled generator to that, with tank probably another $6,000....obviously they have money to burn...and they probably will add more batteries, something like $6,000. each....They estimate their average electric bill was $250 a month, from before in another house...If they took $50,000. and invested it, it would pay the electric and cost them "0"....they would only need a 6% return to make $250 a month...

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Guru
Popular Science - Weaponology - New Member Engineering Fields - Engineering Physics - New Member Engineering Fields - Nuclear Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: No. VA, USA (No, it does NOTu mean "won't go"!)
Posts: 1796
Good Answers: 75
#44
In reply to #43

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/07/2021 2:06 PM

Yep. The only people who ever said green makes Smart are people who say and I'm green!

__________________
Been away a while. Miss all my old friends. Some of you I KNOW are still around. Where are the rest?
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Madison, WI.
Posts: 2074
Good Answers: 77
#45
In reply to #44

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/07/2021 5:50 PM

In otherwords you are out of date, expired, past your shelf life. Some settling has occured. LOL

"And Tesla is certainly a large reason the Ford Mustang Mach-E exists. Originally conceived as a front-drive, Fusion-based electric crossover under former CEO Mark Fields, the Mach-E was reshaped when Fields' replacement, Jim Hackett, underscored its importance by telling executives the "heart of the company's on trial here." Jim Farley, who succeeded Hackett as CEO but was then Ford's president of global markets, steered the project in the direction of the Mustang brand, which clicked with designers and engineers. The vehicle adopted rear drive and targeted 300 miles of driving range, and although the final product isn't a carbon copy of Tesla's Model Y, you can tell which vehicle was in Ford's sights."

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/tesla/model-y/2020/2021-ford-mustang-mach-e-vs-tesla-model-y-electric-suv-comparison-test-review/

__________________
Knowing is the end result of learning, not believing.
Register to Reply Score 1 for Off Topic
Guru
Hobbies - DIY Welding - Wannabeabettawelda

Join Date: May 2007
Location: Annapolis, Maryland
Posts: 7940
Good Answers: 458
#46
In reply to #45

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/07/2021 7:18 PM

Denigration and shout down. If you deleted your first two sentences, we might have taken your response seriously. Honestly.

EV's are going to exist and people will like them. That's fine. Should we not have the right to choose what is best for our own individual situation?

Yes, I know, there are those who say we shouldn't have a choice because of the existential threat of climate change that started with the ending of the last ice age. <sigh>

Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Madison, WI.
Posts: 2074
Good Answers: 77
#48
In reply to #46

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/08/2021 10:05 AM

Last thing I expected from you was a snowflake complaint comment considering how handy you are with the vitriol. (quite good at it actually)

Why do you wear clothes?

Why do you wear a seat belt?

Why the hell are YOU using the internet, its a liberal tool of socialism that rots your brains. Save your lilly white soul and disconnect before its too late. YOU HAVE A CHOICE! MAKE IT!

.

I am perfectly capable of being as irrational as anyone. Or we could stick to the reality that the world is changing and not of its own accord. We changed it.

Now we have to deal with the consequences of our actions.

__________________
Knowing is the end result of learning, not believing.
Register to Reply Score 1 for Off Topic
Guru

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Madison, WI.
Posts: 2074
Good Answers: 77
#49
In reply to #48

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/08/2021 5:20 PM

“It took over 200 years to increase the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere by 25%, and just 30 years to reach 50% above pre-industrial levels. This dramatic change is like a human meteorite hitting Earth.”

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/apr/07/carbon-dioxide-levels-in-atmosphere-reach-record-high

__________________
Knowing is the end result of learning, not believing.
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#50
In reply to #49

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/08/2021 7:26 PM

Our CO2 levels were so low that we were about to lose all plant growth...we have saved the planet by elevating the carbon dioxide level...

"The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere was reduced by about 90% during the last 150 million years. If this trend continues CO2 will inevitably fall to levels that threaten the survival of plants, which require a minimum of 150 ppm to survive."

We were at 280 ppm....

"We found very strong CO2 fertilization effects on the aboveground and total biomass of the three species. The optimal CO2 levels for the aboveground biomass were 945, 915, and 1151 ppm, and for the total biomass were 915, 1178, and 1386 ppm for tall fescue, perennial ryegrass, and Kentucky bluegrass, respectively (Fig. 1). However, an optimal CO2 of 895 ppm for the belowground was found only for the tall fescue, while no obviously optimal CO2 of the belowground biomass for the other two species was detected."...

https://bmcplantbiol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12870-018-1243-3

Historic graph of Earth CO2 levels...the insert above in blue is the last 5 mil years, as you can see we were in a downtrend, basically approaching the end of life on this planet....

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#52
In reply to #50

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/08/2021 8:59 PM

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#53
In reply to #52

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/08/2021 9:47 PM

"For most crops the saturation point will be reached at about 1,000–1,300 ppm under ideal circumstances. A lower level (800–1,000 ppm) is recommended for raising seedlings (tomatoes, cucumbers and peppers) as well as for lettuce production."Feb 12, 2021

http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/crops/facts/00-077.htm

https://theconversation.com/plants-absorb-more-co2-than-we-thought-but-32945

The more CO2 in the atmosphere the faster the plants grow and the more CO2 they absorb...Some plants absorb more than other plants...

The Best Trees to Plant to Absorb CO2

  • American Sweetgum Tree. Storage Capacity: 380 pounds of CO2 per year* ...
  • Eucalyptus Tree. Storage Capacity: 70 pounds of CO2 per year* ...
  • European Beech Tree. Storage Capacity: 112 pounds of CO2 per year* ...
  • Laurel Oak Tree. ...
  • London Plane Tree. ...
  • Red Mulberry Tree. ...
  • Silver Maple Tree. ...
  • Yellow Poplar (aka Tulip Tree)

Feb 6, 2020

https://getreprint.com/best-trees-absorb-co2/

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#54
In reply to #53

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/08/2021 11:12 PM

According to my calculations the entire world total of anthropomorphic CO2 emissions is 9.8 gigatons per year...A Silver Maple tree absorbs 450 lbs of CO2 per year, that means we only have to plant 48 billion trees to mitigate CO2....There are around 228 billion trees growing in North America already....and 3 trillion trees worldwide...there are 7.9 billion people in the world....that means each person could plant 6 trees and neutralize any effects from human produced CO2....

But wait, the effect of rising CO2 levels is already greening the Earth, plant growth is exploding...

..."And the chief cause of global greening we're experiencing? It seems to be that rising carbon dioxide emissions are providing more and more fertilizer for plants, the researchers say. As a result, the boom of global greening since the early 1980s may have slowed the rate of global warming, the researchers say, possibly by as much as 0.2 to 0.25 degrees Celsius.

"It is ironic that the very same carbon emissions responsible for harmful changes to climate are also fertilizing plant growth, which in turn is somewhat moderating global warming," says study coauthor Dr. Jarle Bjerke of the Norwegian Institute for Nature Research."...

Yeah, and maybe that is an understatement...

https://phys.org/news/2020-01-planet-greener-global.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/09/16/the-countries-of-the-world-ranked-by-their-tree-wealth/

https://www.convertunits.com/from/gigaton/to/pound

https://www.co2.earth/global-co2-emissions

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jul/04/planting-billions-trees-best-tackle-climate-crisis-scientists-canopy-emissions

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#55
In reply to #54

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/08/2021 11:29 PM
__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#61
In reply to #55

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/09/2021 7:48 PM

..."Today, annual tree harvest vs. production on a world-wide scale shows that humans cut down approximately 15 billion trees a year and re-plant about 5 billion."...

..."A new study published in Nature estimates the planet has 3.04 trillion trees. The research says 15.3 billion trees are chopped down every year. It also estimates that 46% of the world's trees have been cleared over the past 12,000 years."Sep 2, 2015

Well there's your problem lady, you've cut down too many trees....

https://news.mongabay.com/2015/09/how-many-trees-are-cut-down-every-year/

https://blog.tentree.com/fact-check-are-there-really-more-trees-today-than-100-years-ago/#:~:text=Today%2C%20annual%20tree%20harvest%20vs,re%2Dplant%20about%205%20billion.

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#88
In reply to #61

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/23/2021 1:30 AM

Mr Beast kills it with 20 million trees...

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#89
In reply to #88

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/23/2021 2:23 PM

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#90
In reply to #89

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/25/2021 12:44 AM

As you can see from the chart above the Earth is in a 100,000 year cycle of ice ages.. ..I believe it is possible that this is caused in part by the low CO2 levels...as you can see the ice ages are increasing in length and the CO2 levels are gradually dropping a bit more each time the planet undergoes one of these ice ages....We are now at the peak of the warming cycle...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100,000-year_problem

What ever is happening to cause these ice ages, whether it's an orbital anomaly or a giant space dust cloud, it's clear that the lack of solar insolence is the cause...

...."Now, in a study published in Nature this week, lead author Tierney and her team have successfully projected the average global temperature during the Last Glacial Maximum. Based on their models, the researchers found that the global average temperature from 19,000 to 23,000 years ago was about 46 degrees Fahrenheit. That’s about 11 degrees Fahrenheit (6 degrees Celsius) colder than the global average temperature of the 20th century, per a University of Michigan statement."...

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/ice-age-temperature-science-how-cold-180975674/

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hemel Hempstead, UK
Posts: 5826
Good Answers: 322
#63
In reply to #53

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/10/2021 8:07 AM
__________________
If you spend all your time looking for people and things to complain about: trust me, you will find plenty to complain about.
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 2004
Good Answers: 31
#64
In reply to #63

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/10/2021 8:50 AM

And if we all grow bamboo then how does the Carbon Trust make money? Growing bamboo will simply do away with a tax that only a limited few know where it goes. Like the fuel levy. We just pay it and no one knows what it actually does. Perhaps it is pocket linings in expensive suits or walnut paneled offices soaking up CO2. Hmm!

Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#65
In reply to #63

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/10/2021 8:51 AM

Yes I agree bamboo is good for many things, and hemp...

...."Industrial hemp has been scientifically proven to absorb more CO2 per hectare than any forest or commercial crop and is therefore the ideal carbon sink. In addition, the CO2 is permanently bonded within the fiber that is used for anything from textiles, to paper and as a building material.

One hectare of industrial hemp can absorb 22 tonnes of CO2 per hectare(about 2.5 acres). It is possible to grow to 2 crops per year so absorption is doubled. Hemp's rapid growth (grows to 4 metres in 100 days) makes it one of the fastest CO2-to-biomass conversion tools available, more efficient than agro-forestry."...

https://hemp-copenhagen.com/images/Hemp-cph-Carbon-sink.pdf

"The U.S. Energy Information Administration estimates that in 2019, the United States emitted 5.1 billion metric tons of energy-related carbon dioxide, while the global emissions of energy-related carbon dioxide totaled 33.1 billion metric tons."

https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/how-much-carbon-dioxide-does-united-states-and-world-emit-each-year-energy-sources?qt-news_science_products=0#qt-news_science_products

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply Score 1 for Good Answer
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#66
In reply to #65

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/10/2021 9:25 AM

..."Over time, the use of industrial hemp has evolved into an even greater variety of products, including health foods, organic body care, clothing, construction materials, biofuels, plastic composites and more (according to one source, more than 25,000 products can be made from hemp).May 29, 2013

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ashoka/2013/05/29/industrial-hemp-a-win-win-for-the-economy-and-the-environment/?sh=7634844d289b

Legalize marijuana so we can grow hemp everywhere...

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#67
In reply to #66

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/10/2021 8:37 PM

I would like to see hemp rope coated like thhn wire....and then the testing results compared with other ropes on the market...

THHN stands for Thermoplastic High Heat-resistant Nylon coated. the stranded wire is covered in a PVC (polyvinyl chloride) insulation with a nylon jacket.

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply Score 1 for Good Answer
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#73
In reply to #67

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/12/2021 1:12 PM

Hemp production in the US is the fastest growing crop...

"Industrial hemp is the fastest growing crop in US agriculture. ... The following year, 1,500 acres of hemp were planted in the US. Today, nearly 100 times that many acres of US farmland are covered in the stuff—146,000, according to new data from the US Department of Agriculture (USDA)."Dec 31, 2019

Full article...

"U.S. farmers are planting less hemp than they did last year due to regulatory uncertainty, a surplus of hemp flower and biomass held over from 2019 and continuously falling wholesale prices.

As of Thursday, licensed total hemp acreage to date has reached 465,787 acres for the 2020 production season, with 47 state departments of agriculture reporting numbers to Hemp Industry Daily.

The 2020 licensed acreage is a 9% decrease, compared to 511,442 total licensed acres of hemp across 34 states in 2019, which was more than quadruple the number of acres licensed from 2018, industry advocacy group Vote Hemp reported last fall."...

https://hempindustrydaily.com/2020-outlook-licensed-u-s-hemp-acreage-falls-9-from-2019-but-grower-numbers-increase-27/

https://www.fb.org/market-intel/usda-releases-long-awaited-industrial-hemp-regulations

Each acre removes around 17.6 tons of CO2 per year....

500,000 acres = 8,800,000 tons of CO2 per year...

Square mile = 640 acres

US area = 3.8 million square miles

444,000 square miles = 5 billion tons of CO2 per year

https://hempwood.com/

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#74
In reply to #73

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/12/2021 1:36 PM

https://hemptoday.net/industrial-hemp-fiber-is-better-than-wood-in-every-way/

Hempcrete...

..."On the other hand, the significant portion of trapped air in hempcrete makes it good insulation. It's relatively breathable, but a good insulator for both heat and noise. The material is also resistant to mould, and fire-resistant. “We heat [our material] up to over 1,500 degrees Fahrenheit and it barely has an impact,” says builder Mark Faber, of Canadian hempcrete company Just BioFiber. “Very unlikely for this house to catch fire.”"...

https://www.engineering.com/story/not-just-a-pipe-dream-hemp-as-a-building-material

https://www.hemptraders.com/Hemp-Board-s/1937.htm

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#75
In reply to #74

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/12/2021 2:28 PM
__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Power-User

Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 227
Good Answers: 11
#78
In reply to #67

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/12/2021 5:11 PM

That's a good idea - that would be structurally similar to clothesline, which is a typically a thin stranded plastic rope coated with some other kind of plastic. Perhaps you should pursue development and get the profit from it.

Register to Reply
Power-User

Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 227
Good Answers: 11
#77
In reply to #66

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/12/2021 5:04 PM

We don't have to legalize marijuana to grow industrial hemp. See for example, South Dakota's industrial hemp legalization that preceded a voter initiative to legalize marijuana, and industrial hemp legislation introduced by Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky.

Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#79
In reply to #77

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/13/2021 11:47 AM

The problem with having marijuana illegal and hemp legal, is that they look exactly the same, and law enforcement is constantly interfering with production which places a stigma on farmers as being harassed and of law enforcement as being stuck with what enforcement measures to pursue...

Most pot fields are spotted using aerial surveillance and they don't discriminate between marijuana and hemp...

Farming hemp has requirements that mirror legal pot growers and government bureaucracy is hindering efforts of those that would be growing hemp were it not for all the regulations, permits and licensing requirements...

You want to fight global warming they should be encouraging growers and granting money to them instead of supporting wind turbines and solar pv farms....

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 2004
Good Answers: 31
#80
In reply to #79

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/13/2021 12:57 PM
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#87
In reply to #79

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/18/2021 6:15 PM

This farmer had a million-dollar hemp crop — until South Carolina bulldozed it

..."HARLEYVILLE, S.C. — After Hurricane Dorian battered his farm in September, John Trenton Pendarvis faced a costly decision. Dorian's winds had blasted the hemp he had planted in early summer. On one particular 10-acre field and its nearly mature crop, he had already spent over $75,000 for licensing, seeds and labor — a sum that he hoped to recoup by selling the post-harvest hemp oil and flowers for several million dollars."....

...."Like most farmers, McGill is growing hemp for cannabidiol, or CBD, an extract made from the flowers that is said to have multiple health benefits. Hemp fiber from the stalks can also be used to make paper, textiles, building materials and food ingredients, among other products.

“I don’t think they’ve even truly reached the scope of potential for what this biomass can be used for,” McGill said.

While the average cost of growing hemp is estimated at between $8,000 and $15,000 per acre, farmers can bring in upward of $50,000 per acre, depending on the markets and yields. The promise is so great that McGill recently left his day job at an irrigation supply company to become a full-time farmer."...

https://www.capitalpress.com/state/oregon/hemp-rush-plenty-of-risk-reward-possible-in-growing-newest-cash-crop/article_78a6fff4-e9f3-11e9-a3e9-1f20e11a43e4.html

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#91
In reply to #79

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/28/2021 1:31 AM

...."NEWPORT NEWS, Va. - Hemp growers were put in handcuffs in their home during a drug raid back in September 2019, and now they have filed a lawsuit against members of the Newport News Police Department.

“I wouldn’t want my worst enemy to experience or go through what I went through that night,” said Shardell Gerald.

Shardell Gerald and Lamont Burgress showed News 3 security video that captured what happened in their backyard as they said they were answering questions in handcuffs.

It was the night of September 30, 2019, when police surrounded their home.

The couple said they were interested in growing hemp when it became legal about three years ago.

“We thought this would be a great way to reclaim our farming heritage and just start small,” said Gerald, adding the idea was to grow hemp in her backyard to do research and potentially sell it for CBD production.

Gerald said she has been a social worker for the City of Newport News for the past 12 years.

She said with this being a new law, she wanted to make sure they did everything completely by the book when growing hemp.

She showed News 3 her hemp growing registration with the state, a Newport News city business license that she obtained and documents filed out by code compliance.

She gave us a copy of a letter that the Department of Agriculture sent to the police chief stating their intent to grow hemp, which is standard procedure for anyone who has registered.

According to the application from the Virginia Department of Agriculture, “VDACS will forward a record of each Industrial Hemp Grower Registration issued by the Commissioner to the chief law enforcement officer of the locality in which the registered grower will grow industrial hemp. VDACS will notify the Superintendent of State Police of the locations of all industrial hemp production fields.”

Local police and state police are legally allowed to come to see and test the plants along with the VDACS.

The law states if the test shows THC of more than .3 percent, a person is required to destroy the plants and authorities can be notified.

Gerald said they filled out all the necessary paperwork and completed requirements to grow hemp in the backyard.

“I was good to go as far as I was concerned, and we planted in June 2019,” said Gerald.

She said the state came out and tested her plants successfully and she also paid a lab to get her plants tested as well.

Four months after they started growing the plants, there was a knock at her door.

“I just got home from work,” said Gerald. “I get to the front door and I opened it, and there are like five or six officers aiming firearms at us, screaming at us to get our hands up.”

She said they were terrified and confused about what was happening.

She said they were both handcuffed and brought out front of their home and added that there were police vans and officers surrounding their property.

She said officers told her they had a search warrant for marijuana and she said, “I immediately said, 'This is not marijuana. I am registered to grow industrial hemp,' but I was told to be quiet.”

“We told them from the very beginning, ‘Hey, this isn’t what they thought it was,’ but our cries went unheard,” said Burgress.

Gerald said she told them she was a city employee and that she had completed all the proper registration.

Burgress said he repeatedly asked for them to take her out of handcuffs. Gerald showed us home security video that captured what happened in the backyard while they were being detained.

You can hear officers talking about the plants in the video, and they appear to be searching information on their phones.

You can hear one officer say, "That’s marijuana; that’s not hemp."

Another said, "Hemp is tall and skinny. Those don’t look tall and skinny."

Gerald said she was taken out of handcuffs and allowed to come into the backyard and explain. You can hear her talking about the laws and the registration process.

After the officers left, the couple pulled up their backyard home security system to watch what happened.

“We looked at the video and hear all the commentary with the officers basically not wanting to believe the information that we provided,” said Gerald.

She was particularly upset, claiming that when one officer left he allegedly told her, "We may be back."

“'We may be back?' What? That, to me, was a threat. It sounded like a threat. I took it as a threat,” said Gerald.

She said the couple was baffled, traumatized and embarrassed in front of their neighbors.

A few days later, Gerald showed News 3 the Freedom of Information Act request she sent to the Newport News Police Department requesting information about the raid, but she was told the case was under investigation and that she was not allowed to have the information.

Gerald said she was left to wonder if the police had information that she was not aware of. She said she currently doesn't understand for what or why she would be under investigation. She wanted answers but said she received no information about what was going on.

She said the lack of information or explanation caused problems in her relationship with Burgress. The couple wondered if the other person was keeping something from them.

They said there was no apology and no explanation ever given to them about what happened.

Their attorney, James Ellenson, filed a lawsuit against the police chief and two other officers.

The city would not comment, citing pending litigation, but directed us to several court documents they’ve filed in an effort to dismiss the case.

The documents state the lawsuit fails to identify how the couple’s rights were violated, that they were lawfully detained and that there was no gross negligence.

They also cite zoning issues with how they were growing the plants.

The documents state that the police chief was under no legal obligation to share the information in the letter sent from the state regarding the couple's hemp registration. The documents also state that the chief was not involved in the search warrant executed at the couple's home.

One document states that the police chief, “is not alleged to have knowledge of the warrant, to have knowledge of the search, to have participated in the search, to have authorized the search nor to have any direct interaction with the plaintiffs.”

“For an entire year, I thought I was under investigation and your entire career and life is in jeopardy for something you did according to the book,” said Gerald.

Gerald said she would have gladly had police to her home to look and test the plants, as they are legally allowed, but she said the way the couple was treated was not proper or justified.

“Being treated less than or not equal to has gone on for far too long,” said Burgress.

“I’ve never had that experience before, and I never want to have that experience again,” said Gerald.

She said she wants to use this as a time to educate the public and law enforcement about the laws regarding hemp.

The litigation for this is currently underway in federal court."...

Many stories like this in the news....

https://news.google.com/search?q=hemp%20law%20enforcement&hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#47
In reply to #45

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/08/2021 6:00 AM

Yes,, your car is possessed with an evil spirit that seeks to destroy you....take it to the crusher immediately and purge the existential threat from existence, then go buy an EV....my uncle has a dealership just across the street, mention my name and he'll give you a good deal...

Yes but how do I know the new car won't become possessed as well?

Well you don't, but I get a commission, and you'll feel better knowing that you have saved others from this evil thing....

Yeah,, I don't know about that....

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#68
In reply to #47

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/11/2021 10:44 PM

Massive amounts of CO2? Tell me more....

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33392
Good Answers: 1817
#69
In reply to #68

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/11/2021 11:00 PM

"Today, researchers estimate that less than 5 percent of lithium batteries are recycled at the end of their lives."

https://grist.org/politics/most-lithium-batteries-end-up-in-a-landfill-a-new-bill-aims-to-change-that/

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Power-User

Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 482
Good Answers: 7
#51

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/08/2021 8:01 PM

How many new power plants, transformers and grid lines, and how much time and money to built them? Check out some of the estimates on just replacing transformers from a bad solar storm. Look at the energy of fossil fuel we burn per day for cars and trucks. We have to add more than that to our power grid for EVs. We do not have the time to make a difference. The only way the earth can be save is to stop all fossil fuels immediately. Isn't that what the data predicts? It's either that or world extinction. Right? And one other thing. Where are we going to get all the batteries needed? That will have to be another new industry in itself. And it will need a new supply and refinement chain. And a recycle chain.

The future might be in Sterling engines. Or similar. We now have a passive cheap radiative Tap, to the cold of space via a 10 u-meter atmospheric slot. We can cheaply reduce the cost of cooling now. Cooling and collecting water from objects in direct sunlight. Without power.

__________________
Light is only half of what you think it is.
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 2004
Good Answers: 31
#57
In reply to #51

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/09/2021 6:11 AM

Nope, too simple a sterling engine. It has no techie parts to programme. That means someone must get dirty and do some work to maintain it. What will all these Z generation kids do then? Oh yes, design an App and nanobots to run it. Silly me!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGlDsFAOWXc These could be the future...

Register to Reply
Power-User

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: London NE, UK
Posts: 153
Good Answers: 10
#56

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/09/2021 4:04 AM

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . and the answer is? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Maybe Nio is the new Tesla. The jury is still out - as it is also still out for other un-related things.

However, if I was a Chinese dissident I wouldn't buy one as I would be worried that the doors would lock, with me inside, before driving autonomously to the nearest 're-education' centre.

Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 2004
Good Answers: 31
#58

Re: Is Nio the New Tesla

04/09/2021 7:01 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBGOryiqZZI

The solution to everyone woes.

Register to Reply
Register to Reply 91 comments

Good Answers:

These comments received enough positive votes to make them "good answers".

"Almost" Good Answers:

Check out these comments that don't yet have enough votes to be "official" good answers and, if you agree with them, vote them!
Copy to Clipboard

Users who posted comments:

Anonymous Poster (1); Brave Sir Robin (3); DaveD (4); Haymaker (1); HiTekRedNek (1); IQ (11); JRiversW (1); micahd02 (6); MNIce (4); Randall (1); rashavarek (16); Rixter (1); SolarEagle (34); Stedou73ish (1); Stef (2); Stephen Archer (4)

Previous in Forum: How to Measure the Current of a Normal 12 V DC Motor?   Next in Forum: Unusual Old Brick

Advertisement