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While doodling..

08/25/2023 7:43 AM

Some random ideas come to mind sometimes,while having my morning Irish Coffee,and doodling on unpaid bills:

Doodle thought number one:

Nothing can be measured without affecting the measured variable.

Even a tiny pocket thermometer inserted into the ocean will affect the temperature.Sure,it will be a very small effect,but it is still there nonetheless.

When you get down to quantum sizes,it can have a large effect.

Nothing can be observed without affecting the thing being measured in some way.

Doodle Thought number two:

Spacetime is like a net,and is in motion at all times.It moves at the speed of light.When it is totally void,it travels in a straight line.When it encounters mass or massive energy,it takes a little longer to pass through,like light through water,it is deflected and bent.This causes the matter to lag the speed of space time,similar to being in an accelerating vehicle,and results in what we call gravity,which Uncle Albert said was indistinguishable from gravity.

We cannot exceed the speed of light because we would have to exit the constraints of our dimension.

Well,that covers my idle thoughts for the time being.

There is a Druid priest I have captured in bottle that I have to have a chat with ,so till next time.

"Work is the curse of the drinking man.".. WC fields

It is important to remember:

"Don't sweat the petty stuff,but pet the sweaty stuff."

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Re: While doodleing..

08/25/2023 8:03 AM

Whatever you're drinking - can I have a pint?

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08/25/2023 1:11 PM

You can't have a pint,but you can buy it:

Macallan 30 Year Sherry Oak Single Malt.

Not cheap,but worth it.

"It is not a drink,it is an experience." (At least in my opinion).. Hitekrednek

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08/25/2023 5:59 PM

The logic seems sound...but if you are aware of this, can't the measurement then be corrected by compensating for measurement effect...? As for exceeding the speed of light, I regard all things as possible, we just haven't figured out how to do it yet....

Aye you'll be needin' some Dilithium crystals...

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08/25/2023 8:50 PM

Do measurements produce the reality they show us?

https://phys.org/news/2023-08-reality.html

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08/26/2023 7:55 AM

IMHO:

Everything is subjective.It must be to perceive it,and different people,as well as animals perceive it differently.

Bees can see in UV,snakes in infrared,and some women have an extra color sense,that can see millions more colors than usual,they are called a tetrachromat.They a have an extra cone cell in their retina that allows them to see 100 million colors instead of just 1 million,which is "normal".

Each person has their own unique world,shaped by their personal anatomy and experiences.

"Normal" is what most people agree on,but there is really no way of knowing what another person is perceiving internally.

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08/27/2023 11:36 AM

That's why we have the scientific method of observation...and peer review...

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08/29/2023 12:23 PM

. . . if only it were actually followed by those claiming to follow it.

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08/31/2023 4:55 PM

Dr. Soran : "What's normal?" Well, that's a good question. Normal is what everyone else is and you are not.

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08/31/2023 9:03 AM

What reference will you use to determine the error,what standard can you use that did no depend on a prior,unbiased measurement?

If you cut a board,and use that board to cut the next board,and that one to cut the next one,each time you are accumulating the error,based on the first board,but how did you determine the exact measurement of the first board?With a ruler,or tape measure?

Still it depends on precise measurement that is not affected by the measuring device.

How long is a coast line?

It can be infinite if you measure down to the atomic level,or the quantum level.

We must accept that our accuracy is only accurate to an accepted level,not an exact level.

A professor asked students:"If a girl is running on a track,and a boy is running behind her,and she has a head start and is far ahead of him,and every minute he gets halfway to her,will he ever catch her?"

A student replied"No but they will get close enough for practical purposes."

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11/13/2023 7:14 AM

In order to correct a measurement,you must have a standard to compare to.

Where is this standard obtained?

It is just an ad-hoc standard,not absolute.

By measuring something else.Then how do you correct for the error in the standard you use for correction?

And things get "weirder and weirder" said Alice (or something like that...)

And down the rabbit hole we go.

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08/25/2023 7:33 PM

Thought #1, I agree. It takes a little heat to measure temperature, a little current to measure voltage, etc.

Thought #2, I think the Irish Coffee could be kickin' in there...

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08/26/2023 7:43 AM

Confession:What I was drinking is not Irish Coffee;It should have been called Scotch Coffee.The terms are used a lot interchangeably,but I know there will be someone that will catch that ,and correct me, if I don't correct this first.

As far as a "kick" it does not kick,it is as smooth as a chauffeured ride in a stretch limo.

(Does the second icon look kinda fuzzy to you,or is it just me?)

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08/26/2023 8:07 AM

Gravity has been pictured as a ball on a flexible fabric,but this illustration leaves a lot out; such as,what is pulling the ball in the first place?

Can space time be moving in all directions at the same time,and that gravity is a result of this acceleration?Imagine a sphere that creates a "G" force in all directions,because it rotates in all directions simultaneously.

Hard to imagine,because it is outside our box of reality.

I am sure there are many who disagree with this idea,but it is not fully developed yet,and it may look silly to me later when I have been enlightened in the absence of Mr. Macallan.

I look forward to debate on this matter.

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08/26/2023 11:37 AM

NOTE: The universe does not have to be actually moving through the "Void"
(Whatever is outside of our universe) accelerating,merely rotating to generate "G" on all objects within this "sphere". Imagine yourself nailed to the outer wall of a sphere,but in all directions instead of one direction.That would be equivalent to gravity,would it not?

The net analogy:The net would stretch when it encountered a mass,and lag behind the free,pure open space time motion,creating a warp in space time,and dragging the web of the net with it(Frame Dragging).

Makes sense to Mr Macallan and me.(hic!)

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08/27/2023 11:32 AM

I agree, that rubber sheet demonstration is not very convincing, using gravity to explain gravity.

Time slows down in a gravitational field. It's been experimentally established and GPS satellites are programmed to take this into account. It's part of the distortion of spacetime that is caused by the proximity of a massive body, and the time dilation part is the main cause for objects to follow an apparently curved path in 3D space in a gravitational field (but shortest-distance path in warped 4D spacetime).

So, how does matter (and maybe dark matter) warp spacetime. AFAIK, nobody has a clue. It's a very feeble effect. It takes a lot of matter to produce a little warp. There's some new physics here and maybe a Nobel prize.

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08/27/2023 11:55 AM

I think our scientific method has been a huge failure. I believe our current light and gravity theories are imbecilic. But I can only read as fast as I can talk.

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Criticism of the way something is done is meaningless without promoting a possibly better alternative ...

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08/28/2023 6:26 AM

I have mentioned this before,but I will bring it up again.The uncertainty participle should,(IMHO)be called the Ignorance principle:We cannot know what we do not know until we know(observe)it.

The Schrodinger cat example says that the cat is in a state of super position until observed(Known).

If an observer is near the box when the door opens,the state of the cat is known

to him.

If another observer is viewing the box from the end of a fiber optic cable that is one light year long he will not know the state of the cat for another year,in reference to the first observer.

So the state of the cat is unknown as the information travels through the fiber cable.

This supports my idea that the state of the cat depends on the observer's knowledge,or lack of.

The cat is really in one state or the other before the door is opened,but the state is unknown till observed.

We do not know the state of a distant undiscovered star till we observe it,yet is has been there for billion of years.(We think).

Observation does not affect the state of the star,it merely reveals it to the observer.

That is my 2 cents worth,(before tax and deductions,of course. Net value -$.02).

Remember,I graduated Summa Cum Conctabundus from Whatzamaduh U.,in the state of Confusion.

Here is an interesting link:https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/02/060223084147.htm

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08/29/2023 9:50 AM

From what I've read, the problem lies with the word "Observed".

It doesn't mean a human has to see the state of a quantum object, or even a machine has to see it.

What it means is that the quantum object interacts with the environment, becoming entangled with other objects, a process called decoherence. Decoherence is the reason that quantum computers are so difficult to build. The "quantum magic" leaks out into the environment.

In the "cat experiment", when and if the radioactive atom decays and the alpha particle is detected (or not) by the device, "observed" has happened. The cat is either dead or alive, never both.

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08/30/2023 7:52 AM

Sometimes they come back....

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09/01/2023 6:42 AM

If you do not know the state of the cat,even if it is observed by a machine or other device or by decoherence,you have two choices about what you think the state is,but only knowledge of the result is meaningful,so it points right back to the observation by the observer,until then it could be in either state in your imagination,but only in one state in reality.

The problem is defining reality itself:

A Chinese philosopher dreamed he was a butterfly,and when he awoke,he wondered if he was really a butterfly dreaming that he was a man.

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08/28/2023 8:13 AM

I'm thinking that what you want to happen has no effect on the real world. But tell that to the avid sports fan sitting in front of the TV cheering for his favorite team.

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08/28/2023 12:41 PM

Thinking that the results of an experiment depends on consciousness is imbecilic again. It's so, so kindergarten.

So many modern concepts are. Mixing and thinking that living matter is the same as non-living matter. Or that quantum mechanics has anything to do with thought.......shows how intellect has devolved so much.

Physicality has nothing to do with a wave form. What has the characteristic of a waveform and the characteristic of a particle? A duty cycle has these characteristics. A simple duty cycle has fooled our scientists for one hundred years. And we have an idiotic spacetime, instead to explain it. Space width modulation explained with spacetime. What a stretch.

The idea the one can not measure the position and the momentum at the same time is based, like all others, based on a false dynamic. An orbital dynamic. But electrons don't orbit. They sit along side and vibrate with the proton, not around it.

Just like spacetime is based on a false dynamic. Light is emitted at a constant V, but a constant V can not be measured with any relative V. ANY change in phase or frequency IS......a change in V. If spacetime were true....AND.....if light had a constant V, .there would NEVER be a change in phase and frequency.

One could go on for hours. What about static? Now static is a force of the universe, instead of normal mass energy excretions.....due to rotational resonance. Rotation resonance is the cause of the so called quantum steps.

Modern science is not science. It's an institution that needs to be preserved and protected at any cost. It's the institution that is studied and preserved, not the science.

Our scientist are nothing but taffy pullers. Pull and stretch. Bend and curve, because your math tells you so.

Replacing intellect with math has kept us stupid for one hundred years. Follow that stupid equation.

A.I. will do all the research shortly. It's such a farce. Man now wants to build a thought machine to solve his mysteries.....because man hasn't the intellect for it. But I agree......somebody DOES need to do their thinking for them. Their math keeps failing them.

So typical. Dead matter does not use math or information. It's all automatic.

What happens when A.I. ...........tells you that light is a duty cycle? Will it be a new discovery of all time? I'm sure it will. And science will take the credit for it. And want more funding. One hundred years of funding. Because the first hundred only gave us mysteries of math. That guiding spirit.

A physicist should be required to observe motion for 10 years.......before being allowed to touch a pencil.

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08/31/2023 1:39 AM

I don't know I measured a piece of fencing yesterday applying measure thrice cut once and on each measurement the tape showed the same value, so by your reasoning the measured variable should have been different or the glasses need upgrading.

As for the speed of light, we don't know what light is so therefore how can we know what we are to go faster than, but we are told it is really fast but so is a starving climate scientist, fast at deleting facts that don't fit the funding.

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08/31/2023 9:28 AM

IMHO:

Space time must pass through all space,even the space between atoms,electrons,etc.

A photon leaving the core of the sun takes millions of years to reach Earth.

It must take a tortuous path through all of the space in the surrounding matter,even though it is traveling at the speed of C it's velocity is less.

This lag in velocity creates the warp in space time because spacetime must travel a longer path through the internal spaces of matter.The local passage of time is the same as the velocity of the light,slower than it's speed,which is always C.

The bulk of flat spacetime travels unhindered and so has a faster velocity than the portion that has to work it's way around and through matter;A longer path.

This bending and stretching of local space time results in the effect we call gravity and a stretching of the uniform structure of spacetime results in frame dragging.

Like dragging a net through water,when an object is caught in the net,it stretches the structure of the net.

I do not claim to know the math to support this idea,and maybe it is utterly wrong,but I can live with it.In my case,ignorance is bliss.

What did you say,MAC?(The Druid priest).

Ok, I'll stop now before I say too much.

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08/31/2023 5:22 PM

The end of space-time?

https://youtu.be/GL77oOnrPzY

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09/01/2023 5:36 AM

Ignore minor inconsistencies.

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10/15/2023 10:46 AM

While sitting around one night,sipping Macallan and smoking a Cohiba Behike cigar,Mr.Mac paid me a visit since I had freed him from the confines of the bottle.We talked at length about the universe.

He said that what we call spacetime is really a field of energy that is in motion at the speed of light,and that matter, or intense energy, bends the lines of force,creating gravity,much like bending the lines of force of a magnetic field creates electricity.

Gravity is the result of the bending of the spacetime force field.

He continued on about how to avoid bending the lines of force,and moving through space without an energy penalty,but I fell asleep before he finished. I don't remember the details.Perhaps he will enlighten me on his next visit.

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