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General Electric DC300 Drive Failure

07/26/2025 7:35 PM

Somebody that can help with next problem,

We have one DC 300 drive on a graphic machine with failure indicate F04 FLOSS

Loss of field current

We check fuses, field power module (diodes and thiristor) is good but continues to fail, there is no field current

We check the thiristor firing and we don't see it

We replace the Control Card where the thiristor firing pulses came from, but it continues to fail

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Re: General Electric DC300 Drive Failure

07/27/2025 10:44 PM

I would start by ohming out the field coils. just a guess.

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Re: General Electric DC300 Drive Failure

07/28/2025 6:52 PM

Thanks you for your reply

We have checked the field coil and it is fine

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Re: General Electric DC300 Drive Failure

07/28/2025 12:18 AM

THe field power supply actually comes through the power supply card. The shunt is there, and the 2/3 wave power supply is sometimes on it.

This is a drive that has been in service, and stopped working. You could recheck all the field parameter settings, just to be sure, but you should have FIELD LOSS set well below the low end of the motor minimum field, and FIELD ECONOMY set at the default level. So you should have field current even without the drive commanded FWD or REV.

I have never had a problem with the parallel cables & headers on these drives that interconnect the circuit boards, except maybe once, with maybe 80 total units over at least 10 years, but worth inspecting. There is a systematic test procedure for FLOSS in the basic manual, it’s often worthwhile going through the steps.

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Re: General Electric DC300 Drive Failure

07/28/2025 7:08 PM

Thanks you for your reply

It's a drive that has been in service, then a time out service and now we need to put it into service again

We have not checked field parameters but de field current measured with dc amperometic clamp is zero

We checked the 3 diodes of 2/3 rectifier, the thiristor and it's fine

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Re: General Electric DC300 Drive Failure

07/28/2025 9:32 PM

Yes, you noted that the SCRs are not firing. I forget where the gate pulses for the SCRs come from. Do you have the DC300 basic manual? About 3/4” thick?

You should have no voltage on the field leads, the manual shows what the scope traces should look like.

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07/29/2025 6:24 PM

We put an scope on thiristor gate and there seems to be nothing, althoug with doubts

There is a resistor on pulse transformer primary coil circuit that heats up until it becomes incandescent in 30 seconds or so

We turned off the equipment for this reason

We have DC300 basic manual

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07/30/2025 1:15 AM

Oooh, that’s a good sign, at least to point you in the right direction.

I would replace the power supply card, and set up the little trim pots according to the manual.

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Re: General Electric DC300 Drive Failure

07/31/2025 4:15 PM

Thanks you for your reply

We are waiting for a new power supply card

We bought a card that we hope it arrives in a week

Then I will write back to report that it is working properly o continues to have problems

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Re: General Electric DC300 Drive Failure

08/09/2025 11:31 AM

We have the new Power Supply Card and we put it in machine

and it continues to fail, same fail, FL04 Field Loss

We have checked all the parameters and they are in accordance with those

indicated in the manual for our machine

Now we are going to use the option to generate the field current externally

modifying the parameter indicate by manual for this way so that it ignores

the field current.

We will see if this method can make the drive operational

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