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BioWaste Feedstock for 3MW BioGas Power Plant

06/04/2008 11:34 PM

An urban-based Paper Mill requires 3MW Power Plant for its non-stop daily operations. To cut its Power Cost, it is open to the use of BioWaste as feedstock for an envisioned BioGas Power Plant. In addition to its Waste Water, the daily collection of Urban BioWaste would be dumped in a BioGas Digester to be located inside its Plant Compound. Hence, we ask 2 questions: (Q1) How much tonnage of BioWaste would be required to produce Menthane Gas sufficient for its envisioned 3MW BioGas Power Plant? (Q2) How much Land Space would be needed to accomodate the daily dumping of the equivalent BioWaste tonnage?

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Re: BioWaste Feedstock for 3MW BioGas Power Plant

06/06/2008 1:54 AM

Depending on the biowaste feed stock, you might be able to distribute the by product as fertilizer. For example, food waste plus human waste plus animal waste plus green cuttings all going into a anaerobic digester will produce biogas which is mostly methane that, after being cleaned up can be either injected into the grid or used to generate electricity with an on site generator. The by product of this type of organic waste feed stock will make great fertilizer. If you are using wood pulp I'm not sure if this would work unless you mixed it with other material previously cited above. Search the net. look at biogas in Sweden. they are a leader in this area.

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Re: BioWaste Feedstock for 3MW BioGas Power Plant

06/06/2008 2:36 AM

Despite appeal to segregate Waste-at-Source, it is a fact that City Garbage could be still a mix-up of Biodegradable and Non-Biodegradable Waste. Furthermore, Methane production from Biodegradable Waste (BioWaste) depends upon its make-up - Animal Waste or Plant Waste. Hence, let me re-phrase my questions as follows: (Q1) To produce "scrubbed" 99%Methane to fuel a 3MW BioGas Power Plant, how many tons would be required of - (Q1a) 100% Human Waste from Septic Tank cleaning; (Q1b) 100% Animal Waste from Slaughter Houses; (Q1c) 30% AnimalWaste + 70% PlantWaste? (Q2) How much land area is needed for the BioGas Digester for each type of BioWaste?

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Re: BioWaste Feedstock for 3MW BioGas Power Plant

06/07/2008 3:54 AM

hi

A good idea

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Re: BioWaste Feedstock for 3MW BioGas Power Plant

06/19/2008 5:09 PM

I've recently been studying the viability of small scale anaerobic digestors and this is what i've found:

You are essentially making a stomach. Using the same archebacteria that is in the stomach of animals. You could feed an animal papermill by-product but in small ammounts. Same with other feedstocks. One must really scale up if the objects is rid by-products. I'm going to use 1 metric ton of feedstock for one cubic meter biogas. Not 100% methane, but niether is well gas. Then i know that it only takes 10% fuel gas to air in spark ignition engines. Now i need to look for big engines and find the engines displacement, divide by half for a four cycle engine. And find the engine's r.p.m's. This reveals a cubic meters/minute consumption rate. I figure to feed the engine with 2-8 inches water collumn, so it's close enough to 1 atmosphere. But bigger engines may pose a problem of needing a higher pressure simply because they are large.

i'm used to calculating for small engines but this will be fun to investigate.

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Re: BioWaste Feedstock for 3MW BioGas Power Plant

06/19/2008 5:44 PM

using a CAT G3612TA engine: 12,720 liters/minute for 4.7 minutes @ 1000 r.pm. i think they turn them faster, maybe 1800 rpm.

That ton of feedstock produces that 60 cubic meters of gas over 30 or 40 days. So that ton of feedstock needs many friends. i must retire

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Re: BioWaste Feedstock for 3MW BioGas Power Plant

07/05/2008 8:13 AM

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Re: BioWaste Feedstock for 3MW BioGas Power Plant

01/05/2009 11:42 AM

We are a supplier of much larger bio-waste power plants, and are both in the construction and operation business. However our plant would require at least 100,000 tonnes per year of waste to process, so if you can get us set up at a local waste site, then we can justify the invesment, and can then we would have to also be able to sell electricity at fair market value. If you are interested in doing business, please let us know, and we would be happy to discuss further.

ROWA consulting for Bio-waste technologies Inc.

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01/05/2009 7:31 PM

Thanks for your Offer-to-Build. How much would your BioWaste Power Plant cost? Are you prepared to engage in a Build-Operate-Transfer (BOT) scheme?

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06/30/2009 9:45 AM

I am sure ROWA is doing this as a double game. Sell electricity to you (Mill) and sell Carbon credits to other corporations that needs carbon credits. Methane is a deadly greeen house gas 1000 times more potent than CO2.

Good Job Rowa Consulting!!!

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Re: BioWaste Feedstock for 3MW BioGas Power Plant

03/22/2009 11:41 AM

Hi,

To Produce 1MW/Hour, You need to have 6500 SCM Biogas and for the same, Minimum 450 MT Bio Waste required. Approximately 10 Acre land require.

We can execute this.

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09/15/2010 12:30 PM

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Re: BioWaste Feedstock for 3MW BioGas Power Plant

12/04/2009 1:43 AM

For generating 3 MW power from biowaste, the quantum of biogas required would be around 40,000 m3/day i.e 1667 m3/hr. With power generation of 1.8 units per m3 of biogas generated, 3MW power can be generated from above biogas.

We are into biogas generation and biogas based power plants.

Address your specific enquiry to :

Sachin Watarkar - General Manager

Innovative Environmental Technologies Pvt. Ltd.

207, Siddarth Towers, Near Sangam Press, Kothrud, Pune 411029

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12/04/2009 6:05 PM

Thanks for your info - and shall contact you in future undertakings.

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Re: BioWaste Feedstock for 3MW BioGas Power Plant

12/27/2009 11:15 PM

i have the answer for your question and i can guide you in many aspects of your project for any abiguity of Biogas power plant. please contact me by private message:

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Re: BioWaste Feedstock for 3MW BioGas Power Plant

06/27/2010 11:32 AM

We are a Bangalore (INDIA) based company providing innovative technology solutions for renewable energy source from Bio-waste materials. We have a patented technology available for mini power plant as "SPARSE POWER TECHNOLOGY". If you required any more details please contact. James Mathew , Email: bioenergysystem@gmail.com

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Re: BioWaste Feedstock for 3MW BioGas Power Plant

06/28/2010 12:57 AM

Hi there,

We are Innovative Environmental Technologies Pvt. Ltd. an Indian company engaged in renewable energy projects. We are looking for implementing such projects in South East Asia and we feel we can definitely help you out with your proposed Biogas based power plant project.

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Please furnish all details like type of feed stock available, quantity, quality, etc.

After receiving all details, we can take this matter further.

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