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Problem with Crane Starter

09/16/2006 8:32 AM

Hello all,

I have a problem with my crane in my company. I am having a crane of capacity 7.5 Tonne. In that the starting current of the hoist motor is reaching up to 60 to 70 A. The motor capacity is 7.5 HP. For this we had put soft starter also. But the thyristor of the soft starter is not bearing the starting load. We are having 100 kVA genset. So during i run genset the high current due to this hoist motor is causing a voltage dip because of this i am facing problems with my CNC machines. Anybody can give solution how can i use the crane while running DG? What may be the problem with the hoist motor.

Note: During i the period i used the soft starter the starting current was not this much and because of this my genset not affected with voltage dip.

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Re: Problem with Crane Starter

09/16/2006 2:07 PM

A 7.5hp motor? 60-70a sounds more like 75hp.

Are there any places in the drive line you can change the drive ratio(s), lowering the speed that the crane picks up will give you better start up conditions.

Having too much cable on the drum, will also have a negative effect on start up, does the crane work better w/all the cable out?

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Re: Problem with Crane Starter

09/17/2006 5:08 AM

Is this a recent occurence? Have you checked bearings? Is the brake coming off? Some `Demag` cranes I worked on had a brake that was activated by the supply coming on to the motor, i,e, the brake came off first before the motor turned,

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Re: Problem with Crane Starter

09/17/2006 7:42 AM

Did you try a severe duty soft starter?

I will increase the hp and the amps of the soft starter.

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Re: Problem with Crane Starter

09/17/2006 9:55 PM

Did you measured the Power Factor during the starting of the crane? May be you have to compensate the reactive power.

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Re: Problem with Crane Starter

09/18/2006 4:01 AM

While You seem to have something that is putting an excessive load on the motor 60amps would not be out of the normal for what you're describing. And while I agree with Garthh that to much cable is likely you really do need to thoroughly go through the motor and be sure the bearings and windings are in good shape.

However all that aside the problem you are describing is commonly called a startup inrush and the simple solution to the problem is to install a Capacitor in line. Any basic electrician or Maintenance Engineer should be able to install this in thirty minutes or so.

If you already have a capacitor then you need to get it checked and/or replaced. If it is good then you need to make sure it is wired in properly and if it is you then need to completely go through the motor.

I noticed you gave a good amount of information in your description but to solve this problem you really need to know the amp draw under normal operation. Knowing this will tell you if your problem is the motor it's self or an outside source putting too much load on the motor at start up.

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Re: Problem with Crane Starter

09/18/2006 6:52 AM

I think its normal, neednt fuss on it. generally speaking, there is a 3--5times over current for motor to start load. Your motor is 7hp, at 38ovoltage, it will be 14A current. multiply 5 is just 70A. after it goes into stable, the current will reduce to 10 about amp.
If you want to reduce the instantaneous current, you can use a soft starter or add a spring at teh end of the wire.
you can also use an invertor for reducing further more.

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