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Will Heating Delaminate Aluminized Steel?

08/19/2008 3:45 AM

Will heating of aluminised steel effect the coating ? if so what temperature does the expansion of the laminate become critical? will the steel delaminate at a certain temperature ?

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Re: Will Heating Delaminate Aluminized Steel?

08/20/2008 9:28 AM

Just off the top of my head, car exhaust systems are typically aluminized steel, and therefore have to hold up to over 400 degrees F (at the exhaust manifold/headers). If kept dry and away from road salt, they can last years.

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Re: Will Heating Delaminate Aluminized Steel?

08/20/2008 10:38 AM

Hello Guest,

I answered this question a couple of weeks ago and my reply then I have posted below. Hope it helps. Let use know OK?

Re: Melting point of aluminium on aluminised steel. 08/14/2008 6:15 AM
Hello Guest,

For the type you refer to Temperature reresistance to 400 °C without surface alteration.

I did not read all your post, so to try and answer the delaminating............and I am not exactly sure if this is correct for you as it refers to Hi Temperature Coating Cohesion which is up to 650 °C. And for (dx55d+AS) is 800 °C.

There is mention on the arcelomittal site, Adhesion:

Resistance to cracking on bending 3T (t < 2.25mm). 4T (t ≤ 1.25mm).

Try these sites out. You may have to plod through a lot of info' on the Corus site. Hope it is of use. And am still looking for specific temp for each grade.......

http://www.arcelormittal.com/fce/repository/transfer/EN_TDS_MCO_24022006.pdf

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Re: Will Heating Delaminate Aluminized Steel?

08/20/2008 10:42 AM

Hello again Guest,

I have pasted the second part of my reply below:

Re: Melting point of aluminium on aluminised steel. 08/14/2008 5:27 AM
Hello Guest,

with ref' to your specific question......."We use different grades of aluminised (dx51d,dx52d,54d and 56d). Will the melting point be different on each grade"?

The MP of these grades are from 419 °C to 450 °C. These are the critical temps!!!

If you burn off Polymer at 480 °C, it would tend to suggest some of the thinner grades will be lost because the temperature is too high and, some grades which may be thicker will be considerably thinned during the De-polymerisation process..

I have tried to find more accurate and specific information for each grade with regard to MP but this is all I could find.

I have not read any other posts in reply to yours but there may well be an expert on this very subject?.............Good luck

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Re: Will Heating Delaminate Aluminized Steel?

08/20/2008 10:52 AM

Hello Guest,

just to say I realise you did not ask about polymerisation but the content I include does have details of the melting points of Aluminium on Steel. And I also include a couple of sites that will be helpful.

It all depends on the grade of steel/aluminium you are using. But the temps the aluminium starts to degrade or melt pretty much answers your question I think.

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Re: Will Heating Delaminate Aluminized Steel?

08/20/2008 11:09 AM

Hello Guest,

this is to rectify a mistake in my previous post. It should read:

Resistance to cracking on bending 3T (t < 1.25mm). 4T (t ≤ 1.25mm).

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