Is it necessary to provide diiferential protection for High Voltage Indoor type Bus-bars even if the generator feeding and all outgoing feeders have all protections provided? What should be the criteria for selection?
Re: High Voltage(150 kV) Indoor Bus-Bar protection
09/17/2008 2:51 AM
For a 150kV busbar such busbar protection would be recommended if you have a double busbar system with interconnecting breakers and more than 5 or six outgoing fields. If you're talking about an outdoor switchyard it is mandatory. The point is that distance protections on your outgoing feeders will be primarily be looking at line-side and thus you'd depend on their backup function from the distance protection on the opposed side of the lines that would switch off a few hundreds of milliseconds later (for example 1sec) and in complete imprevisible order, thus exposing your busbars to a higher risk of thermal and mechanical stress related to the short circuit current.
Re: High Voltage(150 kV) Indoor Bus-Bar protection
09/17/2008 5:40 AM
Thanks for the reply. However, I am still not convinced/clear.Would you please clarify with line sketch/cshamatics?
Correct if I am wrong-In my opinion any problem on the Busbars { As we have 150 kV-Double Busbar system-Indoor type with 12 Nos.outgoing feeders and 4-generators feeding ( each generator unit Transfomer 12kV/150kV-star solidly grounded on 150 kV side) with a bus coupler } ,either short Ckt. or Ground,generator breaker will see and trip out. Where differential relay signal will be fed?
Re: High Voltage(150 kV) Indoor Bus-Bar protection
09/17/2008 7:56 AM
You are making the assumption that all faults will be solid phase to phase or ground faults and that fault currents will be high and fast rising to allow the feeder and generator incomings to see the and discriminate correctly and isolate the faulted section of busbar .If the busbar has many sections , you can have more feeders and generator circuits tripping than is necessary.
With a busbar protection scheme , only the minumum required circuits in the affected zone clears and isolates the fault.
Some faults are on busbar insulators or insulation which do not reach the overcurrent levels etc but can cause significant damamge to busbar, inslators, metal cladding housing the busbar and personal injury. I have seen SF6 gas leakage result in a bus diff protection as a result of a flash to the metalwork.
I have a 33KV, 66KV indoor and 132KV outdoor busbars with many long feeders with distance and other protection and many generators coming into the busbars.
We have seen many operations where the busbar differential operated for minor faults that could have been catastophic.
We have never had false operations of the bus protection since with a well balanced scheme with CTs and wiring sized correctly, both Main and Check zones have to operate to trip a busbar zone.
Re: High Voltage(150 kV) Indoor Bus-Bar protection
09/17/2008 10:49 AM
Hi, just for termination. The mail of djacob is very clear on the subject. So the choice of a busbar protection in bigger installation is justified by 3 reasons:
1) personnel safety
2) protection of the investment, due to more rapid isolation of defaults (do not forget pb that sometimes intervene related to saturation of CT in case of extreme harsh busbar faults, but this is another subject again)
3) Higher availability for the clients (automatic switchover in double busbar systems)
You can find correct busbar protections from most OEM manufacturers as : ABB, Alstom, SIEMENS.