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Spec Break!!-piping

09/30/2008 8:44 AM

Spec Break is alwas occur in flanges/Valves.

EX.If the spec break is occur between #150 and #300.Now the PCD of flanges are different for #150 and #300.So its diffult for bolting.In site how they will arrest this problem.

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Re: Spec Break!!-piping

09/30/2008 9:51 AM

You put a 300# flange where the 150# flange would normally be. Yes this is "going out of spec" but there are exceptions to every Rule.

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Re: Spec Break!!-piping

09/30/2008 11:47 PM

Thanks.....

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Re: Spec Break!!-piping

10/01/2008 1:17 AM

Dear peppinjoe,

Please refer to the following CR4 Thread for some details: Connecting Different Types of Flanges.

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Re: Spec Break!!-piping

10/01/2008 10:38 AM

Hello, Spec. breaks do not always occur at valves/flanges. You can have a spec. change for instance after a point where tee is used in a line and some other fluid is introduced into the system. It could be on a water line that changes spec after acid is added to change the Ph of the water as an example. I have seen changed specs in the middle of a pipe line from stainless steel to carbon steel and have a bi metal weld instead of a set of dissimilar material flanges. I have also seen in 850 to 150 steam pressure reducing valves that the spec does not change at the valve but rather down stream after the de-superheater, They do this because although the pressure changes at the valve the heat will not drop till after the de-superheater and the need for chrome-moly spec will continue to the point where the steam is cool enough to be safely held in a lower spec material. I have actually just finished a pipe replacement in this exact scenario. We made the chrome moly to carbon steel bi metal weld several feet down from the de-superheater. If you find your self having a spec. change at a valve as normal you should as a rule always use the higher rated flange on the lower spec. side of the valve instead of the lower rated flange on the higher spec. side if this makes since.

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