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Plug-In "Energy Savers"

10/01/2008 10:58 PM

Some years back I saw a electronic device that promised to reduce electrical consumption. You merely plugged it into any duplex receptical and then plugged the consumer into it.

My memory of the device is limited but I vaguely remember that the emphasis appeared to focus on refrigerators. That implies inductive loads but I don't know that.

It makes sense that they'd target refrigerators. I continue to see domestic power consumption estimates accusing the typical refrigerator of being the highest consumer of electricity in an average home.

However, as promising as those devices were claimed to be, I have not seen one in quite some time.

If the time is ripe for such technology, you would think it would be now.

Has anyone a memory of that device and what became of it?

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L. J.

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Re: Plug-In "Energy Savers"

10/01/2008 11:26 PM

Yes .I too remember.One brand I have come across is savawatt from UK.This can be used for refrigerators and air conditioners.I have not used it > may be yes its time to try a few.

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Re: Plug-In "Energy Savers"

10/02/2008 12:25 AM

Don't waste your money.

They are scams and more people are on to them, that is why the only place you see them any more is on sale over the internet. Stores that sold them were forced to give consumers their money back when they discovered it was all a lie, but over the internet, the purveyors can be more anonymous and ignore you when you ask for a refund.

All the cheap ones do is add capacitors which APPEAR to reduce the current, but they do not reduce the watts, which is what you pay for. But if you don't understand what power factor is, like most people, you will find it hard to understand. But the bottom line is, your electricity bill is no smaller the next month.

Some of the more expensive types use what is called a "Nola Circuit" which can have some potential energy savings ion theory, but never do in practice. A Nola controller uses power factor measurement to determine when a motor is running with no load on it and chokes down the voltage when it does. This will reduce the I2r losses in the motor, but that is only a % of a %. The bigger problem is however, most motors do not run unloaded! We just turn them off, and there is no better energy saver.

Old old refrigerators used to run the compressor motor a lot more of the time and cycle the refrigerant through when cooling was needed, so theoretically, those motors ran for long periods of time with little loading. But refrigerators made in the past 20 yhears just turn the motor off when not in use. Yet when the "energy saver" people make their case for success, they use that model of a refrigerator that basically no longer exists.

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Re: Plug-In "Energy Savers"

10/02/2008 2:00 AM

Hi JRaef!

You've heard the expression "It was good while it lasted"?

Well, in this case, "it" wasn't!

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Re: Plug-In "Energy Savers"

10/02/2008 11:27 PM

Any extra device inserted into the line between the outlet and consuming device can only increase the total line resistance and, therefore, the energy usage. Physics is pretty much a universal set of laws and tends to disregard hucksterism.

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Re: Plug-In "Energy Savers"

10/03/2008 12:54 AM

hi

YEs . this device is available in india and bangladesh .. it has series ofor surges devices built in

Do you need the circuit or ?

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10/03/2008 1:23 AM

I use the power strips with a cut off on it. When not in use cut all the things plugged into it off. All those things with INSTANT ON devices that use power while turned off.

Lower your bill by cutting the power to them.

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Re: Plug-In "Energy Savers"

10/03/2008 6:22 AM

Silicon Chip magazine has done at least 2 good expose's on these scam items. They explain thoroughly why and how they don't work and are well enough presented so non technical people can understand. The depth including figures and test results will also appeal trained technical people too.

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Re: Plug-In "Energy Savers"

10/03/2008 8:03 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that most of those "power savers" were SCR circuits that did reduce the power going to the appliance by clipping the sine wave of the AC power.

This is how a dimmer for an incandescent bulb works.

Of course it's also creating a "brownout" condition for the appliance. You'll save some energy but the appliance won't work to capacity and it's service life will be reduced.

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10/03/2008 8:20 AM

It used to be that way, but in the last couple of years, a new wave of scams has come up on the internet. People sell "energy savers" that are nothing more than capacitors in a box. They make wild claims of energy savings and state that all you need to do is plug them in to your hose at any outlet, not even in-line with a load, to get these magic effects. Pure BS.

The SCR based units are what I was referring to above; they all use what is called the Nola circuit. They work in theory but not in practice except in the rarest of circumstances and they NEVER save as much energy as these scam artists say they do.

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10/08/2008 3:05 PM

You reduce voltage to the device that is plugged in and the amperage will increase so that the wattage is the same - therefore NO SAVINGS at all. Reducing the voltage will also cause motors to heat up more - reducing the design life and putting more of a BTU load on your air conditioning in the warmer months. So you pay more in the end. Ed

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Re: Plug-In "Energy Savers"

10/03/2008 8:14 AM

We had one years ago. The reason I sent mine back was that it was electrically noisy and interfered with the wireless/radio reception.

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Re: Plug-In "Energy Savers"

10/03/2008 6:39 PM

The device you are trying to think of is probably a Smart PlugTM.

It uses a triac to lower voltage by reducing the duty cycle of the applied power.

I have some of them and run my refrigerator on one to extend its life. It slows down the fan motor and lets the defroster run on lower wattage. Those are two things in refrigerators that I or other people I know have had trouble with.

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