Mold and Mildew

Yes, temperatures and relative humidity levels are very high in the South-East Asia region. It's the nature of the region's climate, so there's no avoiding it. Maybe your company can store your products or supplies in a climate-controlled warehouse, where R_H can be as low as 60%. It will cost quite a bit more though. Alternatively, you may consider packing dessicants and wrapping your products in airtight plastic wrap. Be careful though: unequal drying may cause the wood to warp.

Hi DV, and thanks. Unfortunately, the storage is by our client and I have no say in the matter.

Since we are not dealing with solid woods, there isn't much problem with warping, so that isn't a concern.

Currently I am doing more experiments with shrink-wrap with a dessicant pack inside to see the improvement.

The battle continues :-)

Thanks, and kind regards ...

Remove or seal the fuel and the mold does not grow...shrink wrap or sanding sealer etc..

Long ago I had a similar problem, the solution was so simple...

Shrink wrap and seal your product with desiccant inside. When you seal the container, you can then calculate the amount of desiccant needed. Without the container completely air tight, your fighting an uphill battle.

I had a supplier of heat seal material that I used, if you need him let me know and I'll look up his web address for you.

Laby

Thanks for the help.

Yesterday I started a controlled test with just this idea. I chose 10 new parts, put 5 in shrink wrap with a desiccant pack inside (not sure the correct amount, but similar to what we have used before), and left the others open as a control.

The 10 are now in testing, so in 3 weeks we should have some results.

Kind regards ...

Natural Borax, dissolved in water, then applied to your wood etc, will strongly inhibit mold, - if the product comes in touch with water, you will need to seal the Borax in, - Tung oil is a good one, it dries very hard (used to be used for dance floors) and offers no home to mold. Don't use Linseed oil, it can grow mold in the tropical high humidity situation you mention. Regards, Geoff Thomas. Kuranda, (The village in the Rainforest) Australia.

Your problem lies with the user more than you. The moulds are ON the product but would be getting some nutrition from the wood surface so your finishing system could be supplying this. I have had this problem working both in Lima, Peru and here in Durban, South Africa both semi-tropical and with high humidity. If you are finishing with a laquer of some sort you should include a mould killer in your formulation - contact someone like Thor Chemicals www.thor.com/ for a suitable additive.

Wrapping them won't do much for the problem will occur when they are exposed.

I did have a sever problem once caused by airbourne effluent from a local factory - if this is the case both you and your client have had it!

What is the binder for the board - if it is a urea fromaldehyde then I would be surprised as the formaldehyde usually kills off moulds and the idea of it being in the final coating could be the answer.

Can you let us know what the products are so that we don't buy them. Thats what you get for using cheap chinese labour. It is not so cheap now, is it ?

Hi DCad:

Have you considered painting the product you ship to South-East Asia? There are some very effective mold inhibiting paints on the market that will prevent the mold from forming on your product.

Regards machtech

JMAN ... you are great

This is the most concise information I have had so far.

Thanks very much, and kind regards,

The borax solution will be less expensive and probably more effective. Timbor is the name of a finely ground borate it's non toxic and also prevents wood boring insects.

I believe that without a doubt our company, Environmental Protection Technologies can help your business and your clients eliminate any mold/mildew problems and any toxic odor problems that you may be encountering from the formaldehyde in the MDF and HDF would you are using. Any mold issues on textiles can also be eradicated.

You see we provide air purifiers for residential, commercial and industrial applications that create high allotropes of Oxygen. This is NOT Ozone which is O3 but highly active Oxygen molecules in the O4 to O15 range which have tremendous oxidizing power. We make machines with varying output to fit any size facility. We also have HVAC applications that fit a purifier behind the circulator in you Heating, Ventilating and Air Conditioning System.

-This will insure that no Mold/Midew grows in your factory

-It will oxidize any aromatic chemicals that are used in your manufacturing, like Formaldehyde, varnish, etc.

-It will provide pure, fresh air in your factory/warehouse and will greatly improve the energy level of all workers

Please check out our website: www.EPT-LLC.com and feel free to call me to discuss your situation and that of your clients.

EPTChuck

DCaD,

I thought I would clarify something. The air purifiers I am speaking about should not only be used by your facility, to insure that any mold on the wood is killed, but should be utilized by your clients as well, since mold spores are everywhere. Even if you ship the product completely clean, it can still collect mold in route to your clients or at their site.

If a shipment did attract mold spores in transit and your clients had our air purifiers as soon as it hit the warehouse atmosphere with Super Active Oxygen, the mold would be killed along with any other bacteria that may be present. We have used this in the grain industry to kill mold that had formed on Soy Beans that started to smell, and the beans were completely restored to a "clean condition" from rough. Please see the testimonial on our website; www.EPT-LLC.com

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Dear Skeptic, (although I can understand your skepticism if you are not familiar with the oxidizing power of Oxygen in its higher allotropes)

We of course have to get information out to sell our product, otherwise people would think that the only way to kill mold for example would be to use toxic chemicals like Chlorine.

You are commenting about something that you obviously know nothing about. This technolgy for creating Super Active Oxygen was patented in 1965 and has been utilized for over 40 years. Oxygen is a tremendous sanitizing agent. If you don't believe me, just google "Mr. Oxygen". He discusses the power of Ozone which is O3 and is not nearly as powerful as higher allotropes of Oxygen.

People reading this should do their own research and make an intelligent decision. Just because a technology has many applications since it solves a problem at a base level, i.e. killing bacteria does not make it "Snake Oil" . It is simply getting to the source of a problem instead of treating symptoms. Like getting rid of disease instead of taking medicine to mask the symptoms! So check out the lab tests and testimonials our our site and judge for yourself; www.EPT-LLC.com

I am fascinated but intrigued.

Could you point us to any scientifc article that discusses those "other" allotropic forms of oxygen?

The only ones I have ever heard of are O and O₃ other than the ubiquitous O₂

By the way I did google Mr Oxygen, but other than selling his book and therapies (O₂ and O₃) I did not see anything about "higher" forms of oxygen.

Hi JFcayron,

An Allotrope is any form of an element that has a distinctly different molecular structure to another form of the same element. Ozone (O3) is an allotrope of oxygen, normally O2; O4,O5, etc. are just extensions of this same chemical activity. Our air purifiers create singlets of Oxygen that enter the atmosphere and immediately combine with O2 to form these higher allotropes.

I have cut and pasted a lab test done in 1970 verifying Active Oxygen or ARAN in the O5 range. Most people only know about Ozone as a higher allotrope of Oxygen and are not familiar with the higher allotropes. In fact, the technology that we use for generating higher allotropes of Oxygen received a patent in 1965 because it was distinctly different from anything else out there. It still is! It uses what is called a "Corona Generator" to produce these higher levels of Oxygen. This Super Active Oxygen is also highly charged and "unstable", which is what makes it a superior oxidizing agent to Ozone. There is nothing wrong with Ozone, however most Ozone generators (air purifiers) use a spark technology that also creat harmful Oxides of Nitrogen which is not safe to breath in high concentrations. This is why Ozone's concentration is limited in commercial and industrial use.

Ed McCabe, "Mr. Oxygen" talks about the beneficial effects of Oxygen. Ozone, without the unwanted by product from some Ozone machines is beneficial. We spoke with Ed and introduced him to our product line because we found that it was missing from his book. The reason I brought him up is that he speaks about Ozone and its many benefits. Ozone oxidizes, but higher forms of Oxygen oxidize more effectively because there are more Oxygen atoms available to be given to bacteria, toxic chemical, mold in the oxidation process. Since Ozone O3 is effective in this regard, O5 is 3 times more effective because O5 have 3 atoms of Oxygen vs only 1 in O3 that can combine with bacteria and pollutants to oxidize. So all the beneficial effect of 03 come much more rapidy with the higher allotropes of Oxygen. In fact, Ozone machines need maintenance, to change filters and bulbs (if they use ultraviolet light to generate Ozone) that burn out. Our air and water purifiers have no moving parts and require no maintenance other than to wipe off the stainless steel case; They have an infinite switch so that the output can be adjusted for the type of environment, lower for more normal environments, higher for more toxic environments.

Our manufacturing facility has one of the most advanced Labs for this type of molecular investigation and utilizes a Shimatsu Spectra Photometer and a Perk & Elmer Absorption Unit. Today, the "Corona Generator" is able to produce much higher allotropes, measured in the O12 to O15 range in some cases.

The technology that we use to produce Active Oxygen has been validated by an independent lab as far back as 1970, to produce Oxygen in the O5 range (back then the equipment for molecular detection was not as sophisticated as it is today) and NOT to produce Oxides of Nitrogen. So the higher allotropes of Oxygen that our products produce are completely safe and the machines are designed to run 24/7. This way bacteria, mold, allergens, toxic chemicals which are constantly being introduced into a home or business, can be oxidized and a clean environment maintained when our purifiers are run continuously. The machines also carry a 4 yr warranty on all parts and labor, which can be upgraded to 25 years.

http://www.ept-llc.com/LabTests.html (This link will take you to the section of our website where I cut and pasted the below Scientific Study.

Independent Lab Tests on Super Active Oxygen Technology

A lab Test in 1970 confirmed that active oxygen was at least in the O5 range and that the machine does not produce oxides of Nitrogen.

Campbell and Associates
692 East 200th St.
Cleveland, OH 44119

[Active oxygen] unit was delivered to Campbell for the purpose of establishing analysis of emitted gas for identification. To establish this analysis, special laboratory equipment was set up under known conditions at 70 degree F and 50% relative humidity.

Two chambers were arranged to house the Model LR and another to contain emissions. The second chamber contained equipment for weighing, oxidizing and flame testing with a Beckman Unit.

Results:"Gas emitted and weighed shows to have molecular weight about six times heavier than oxygen. Gas combined in oxidation five times faster than oxygen. The flame tests showed the range to be greater than ozone and to be in the Pentoxide Range, meaning O5 or active oxygen as described by the patent of the company.

Test conducted after the initial testing for active oxygen conclude that the active oxygen machine does NOT produce oxides of Nitrogen (NOx). The additional testing was conducted during a 48 hour period using equipment designed for the purposes of detecting gases which include the NOx gases".Sincerely, Edgar H. Campbell

JMan,

Thanks for your comments, I appreciate the feedback and will update some of the text on the website that is not exact. First off, I am a business developer, not an engineer, and have made some general points on our website like the mention of Nitrogen where the point was that there is much more Nitrogen than Oxygen. But why not be exact, so your point is well taken.

Also on the lab equipment that we have, it was not an "attempted technical jargon", it is the equipment that our engineers use. Unfortunately, I asked them over the phone and not in an email so I wrote what I "heard" and as you point out it is a Shimatsu Spectrophotometer and a Perkin Elmer Absorption Unit, so thanks for the correction.

JMan,

In regard to your queston, What is it that keeps these high energy, high activity oxygen allotrope from instantaneously oxidizing down to relatively more stable Ozone (O₃), as well as reacting with the abundance of nitrogen in the atmosphere to form nitrogen oxides OUTSIDE of the UNIT???

1. The answer is that nothing keeps these larger molecules from releasing many O1s until what remains is stable O2 (not O3 which is also unstable). But this is what makes for the powerful cleansing process. O1 is very unstable and quickly combines with (oxidizes) whatever it first encounters. This is what makes O1 one of the most powerful and natural cleansing agents available. O3 is only able to release 1 oxygen atom per molecule created. Our equipment produces large quantities of the higher allotropes of oxygen which then release much larger quantities of O1s into the air.

2. O1 will not react with the nitrogen in the air because N2 is very stable and has a strong molecular bond. What is a problem in many ozone machines is that they use a localized "hot spark" technology which unfortunately is capable of breaking apart the N2 bond which then allows the N and O to combine into oxides of nitrogen. This does not occur in ambient air nor with a "cold" electron corona process.

Also you asked about O8-- I asked Ted Trikilis, the son of Nick Trikilis the original patent holder of the 1965 patent and he said that his father's Original patent stated the generation of O4 and O5 identified in the patent as the term ARAN. Since then higher allotropes have been created

He also told me that:

-The University of Pohang in South Korea studied the O8 and O12 molecule and wrote a few papers on those molecules for the International Chemistry Society which was published in their Journals

-In 1995, the United States Government gave a grant to the University of Georgia at Athens, Georgia for the study of the O8 and O12 Molecule for potential rocket fuel;

Regarding the Aromatic Chemicals, perhaps I should have said that Active Oxygen will oxidize Formaldehyde and Chlorine as well as 99% of Aromatic Chemicals

Aran, or Active Oxygen as it is also called is very active and aggressive. It can eliminate both Organic (Animal made and Plant Made compounds) and inorganic (Chemically create) odors by Oxidizing them (Burning them molecularly)


Acetone is an inorganic compound that becomes CO2 + O2 + H2O when exposed to ARAN or Active Oxygen.

Formaldehyde will also give you the same chemical reaction.