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bird control in food grade area

10/18/2008 8:55 AM

i am working in refinery which is food grade area and there is no control on bird

any body can give me a solution.

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Re: bird control in food grade area

10/18/2008 11:19 PM

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10/19/2008 12:19 AM

Screens, doors, if no bird control then you have no mite or lice control . Lice live on birds.

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10/19/2008 1:34 AM

I don't what you are doing. But you have to keep them out or run them off.

If your in an indoor area seal it up. I don't know how strong an air current you would need to keep birds from flying in open doors but if you put in enough fans it will work.

If you out doors repel them with noise. Use men with shot guns that fire a small explosive charge about 30 years before it explodes. Build nets from simple netting to http://www.weathersolve.com/bird_control.html

You may be able to use Avatrol it is a bird poison that very toxic to birds and not very toxic to people. It is 4-aminoparidine.

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10/19/2008 4:11 AM

Boy I'd sure would not want them to shoot at me! In thirty years I might forget to move out of the way! That might hurt!

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10/19/2008 2:52 PM

If you have no "control" of any known pest,you have no "food grade area" by all of the standards of the world!"Food grade" areas are closed to pest of all types.I well know one can not always do this where food is kept or processed,so one must do ones best.I have seen areas where screens could not be used "if" they were available simply because they were torn as fast as one could install them.Many normal solutions are useless in in many situations.Some folk can have Primates,Lions,Elephants and Ants all raiding their food supply.

Even some animals that frighten the pest are often preferred over the pest.

Bright colored string or fishing line is often overlooked in bird control.Dangled,strung or hung,birds do not like to fly into it if they can see it.Also string it just above perching or roosting areas where the bird can not perch or roost because of it and the line is too thin to grasp and perch on.

Doorways or walls with chickens present.Have the entrance high enough that people have to step over but the chicken has to fly to it.Then hang rope,vines or sticks where they will swing from top spaced close enough to keep birds and chickens out.Same or bars for windows.Light,air and people can come in.

I have seen these methods used.I have also seen "Cats",lizards and other animals used.I had tame Monitors from Africa and South America that ate birds.They will eat your chickens and their eggs too!

If you find a solution that works for you,please let us know.We are all still learning.Alfred

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Re: bird control in food grade area

10/19/2008 10:29 PM

Birds and insects are attracted by the smell of food, CO2, and methane gases. Some method are not practical like having barking dogs, or feeding the birds away from the processing area. If you can encourage area resident and plant worker to put out bird feeders at home and keep them up that is refill them when empty or low. Your problem may go away. you did not say if you have sea gulls or not. Sea gulls are goverment property you will need to get them to take care of them. OR get Hawks that like sea guls for dinner.

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Re: bird control in food grade area

10/19/2008 11:28 PM

Having worked in a paper mill,I can suggest what they used here:

Close all unnecessary openings.

Trace bird nests on the outside/near your building and move them away. (don't DESTROY them,like the other commentators would suggest,they house somebody's next generation pal!)

Use bright colored fishing net in the openings,you won't find birds entangled in them,they act wiser and stray away just at the sight of them.

They were also about to invest in some low frequency noise emitter that birds don't quite like,if you're really interested,I can contact them and get back to you about the same.

What amuses me is some of the responses here,like the guest says-you're far from being in a food grade area pal!Ideas like introducing cats,using poisons should be unheard of if you are really talking food grade!

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Re: Lack of bird control in food grade area

10/19/2008 11:38 PM

You need to check this with your local Kenya governmental agency...as some bird species might be protected. There are most likely standardized approaches to solving you problem; or to obtaining appropriate variances. Short of benign control approaches (such as scarecrows, predator decoys, noise, mesh work, and such), you are best advised not to go it on your own with this kind of problem. Also, check with duly registered and licensed exterminators. There are just too many "ifs" for a credible solution to come from...everywhere in the world.

Getting local experts to help will also help you describe your situation more accurately...because they will see your "food grade refinery" and any offending wild animals with their actual eyes.

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Re: bird control in food grade area

10/20/2008 7:40 AM

Dear Thread Author - please respond as to what your end product is used for, so that I may have the chance to avoid these type of products....

You should have already declared war on this potential danger, if indeed you are correct in that there are food-grade applications

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Re: bird control in food grade area

10/20/2008 8:36 AM

I don't even remotely work in the food industry. However, we've had some bird problem, (mostly pidgin's), that muck up and crap all over. The forge shop is a huge building, made in the 50's to with stand a nuclear blast. The many girders overhead make for prime, very warm, nesting sites.

We use this acoustic product that every once in a while emits a recording that sounds like a hawk attacking and killing some hapless birds.

I think it's something like this:

http://www.pestproducts.com/birdx/BXxpellerSUPERPRO.htm

Anyway, go to www.google.com and type in "bird control". There are tons of products for this problem.

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10/26/2008 1:16 PM

Everything you need to keep birds away is at http://www.BirdBGone.com

They are specialists in this area and have all the low cost products for the situation you need.

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Re: bird control in food grade area

12/14/2008 9:11 AM

realistic looking owls or birds of prey

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12/14/2008 10:41 PM

tell'em what they need to read, not what they want to read!

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