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Ultimate Axial Load

10/22/2008 10:13 PM

Hi Guys,

In your experience of designing, what is usually or estimated Pu (ulitmate load) of a 2-storey residence made of concrete? What I'm getting is 610 kips or 2,714x10^3 N.

Am I correct or is it to heavy? I used 80psf for roof dead load (flr framing), then 120 psf 2nd & grd flr framing....roof LL is 15 psf while 2nd/grd flr LL is 40psf.

thanks in advance..

jaypro

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10/23/2008 12:29 AM

Sounds a tad heavy.

.........................DL LL

Roof ................. 80 15

Second Floor..... 120 40

First Floor ........ 120 40

DL + LL ........... 320 95

Load factor...... 1.25 1.5

Factored Load .. 400 142

Total factored load = 542 psf for two floors and a roof.

To arrive at a factored load of 610 kips, you would need a tributary area of 610,000/542 = 1125 square feet (33.5 feet square). Seems a bit large for a residence.

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Re: Ultimate Axial Load

10/23/2008 12:35 AM

hi ba/el,

Thanks mate.

I just noticed maybe my loading (dead loads) on floor framing is too high for a residence.

Could you recommend me an estimated or normally DL for the flr framing?

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10/23/2008 12:42 AM

Depends on the floor or roof system you are using. Concrete weighs approximately 150 pounds per cubic foot, so a 6" slab is about 75 psf. A dead load of 120 psf would correspond to a 10" thick solid slab.

If you are using a system of concrete joists, you have to calculate the volume of concrete per square foot and multiply by 150. It ain't rocket science.

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10/23/2008 12:46 AM

Hi Mate,

You're right.

Thanks again for the info.

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10/25/2008 10:51 PM

Dear jaypro. The 80 psf roof dead load seems high. There is insufficient information to be sure but a typical asphalt shingled roof with one layer of felt, 19/32" roof sheathing, roof trusses and a gyp. ceiling would weigh somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 to 25 psf. The second floor would be similar. The ground floor (above crawl space would be similar). Again, it all depends on the material and construction of the roof/floors. For example, a marble floor would weigh much more than a carpeted floor. A clay tile roof would weight more than an asphalt shingled roof.

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