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UPS Repair

11/01/2008 1:18 PM

I am looking for information on UPS repair. It's interesting that repair of other electronic devices is a common topic, but UPS seem to be some closely guarded secret, like thermal imaging. These items are not cheap, should be less trouble than a tv to fix, but the manufacturers allow no info out. If anyone can direct me to a site where this is discussed, thanks.

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Re: UPS Repair

11/01/2008 3:02 PM

Maybe that is because low power computer UPS's are so dirt cheap?

A 500 watt one sells for only about $100 at most. they are microprocessor operated, SMD boards and so are made in quantity in China etc... so there is no value in repairing them - imagine repairing a computer motherboard, it would be much cheaper to buy a new one.

Besides which UPS circuits have high and dangerous voltages present and so repair would need a skillful technician, who would charge as much in one hour as a new UPS.

Having said all of that, 6 months ago I repaired my old UPS and sold it.... You don't need a repair manual if you know what you are doing!

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Re: UPS Repair

11/02/2008 7:50 AM

Hello mike k:

you may find something on these search pages.

Bearing in mind what Frank787 has said about the high voltages etc.

There was another question on UPS between 1KW and 1.5KW circuit boards, which is what I was looking for on these site. The poster wanted a site with a particular sine wave displayed and circuit diagrams

It really depends on what UPS you have. And by the way my UPS (UK) was over £230.00, $369. I do not call that cheap!.

Can you tell me what Country you are in and what UPS you have?

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GGLJ_enGB294GB294&q=schematic+circuit+of+UPS+of+1KW+and+1.5KW&start=30&sa=N

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Re: UPS Repair

11/02/2008 8:12 AM

The most common problem with a UPS will be the batteries require replacement. Anything behond that requires circuit schematics and an isolated scope to troubleshoot. You might get lucky and find a burned out high power transistor or fried component but without schematics you can waste a lot of time tracing circuitry .

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Re: UPS Repair

11/02/2008 9:02 AM

Hello mike k:

is this any help?

http://www.zen22142.zen.co.uk/Circuits/Power/ups.htm

Basic UPS Power Supply

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Description
This circuit is a simple form of the commercial UPS, the circuit provides a constant regulated 5 Volt output and an unregulated 12 Volt supply. In the event of electrical supply line failure the battery takes over, with no spikes on the regulated supply.



Notes:
This circuit can be adapted for other regulated and unregulated voltages by using different regulators and batteries. For a 15 Volt regulated supply use two 12 Volt batteries in series and a 7815 regulator. There is a lot of flexibility in this circuit.
TR1 has a primary matched to the local electrical supply which is 240 Volts in the UK. The secondary winding should be rated at least 12 Volts at 2 amp, but can be higher, for example 15 Volts. FS1 is a slow blow type and protects against short circuits on the output, or indeed a faulty cell in a rechargeable battery. LED 1 will light ONLY when the electricity supply is present, with a power failure the LED will go out and output voltage is maintained by the battery. The circuit below simulates a working circuit with mains power applied:


Between terminals VP1 and VP3 the nominal unregulated supply is available and a 5 Volt regulated supply between VP1 and VP2. Resistor R1 and D1 are the charging path for battery B1. D1 and D3 prevent LED1 being illuminated under power fail conditions. The battery is designed to be trickle charged, charging current defined as :-

(VP5 - 0.6 ) / R1
where VP5 is the unregulated DC power supply voltage.



D2 must be included in the circuit, without D2 the battery would charge from the full supply voltage without current limit, which would cause damage and overheating of some rechargeable batteries. An electrical power outage is simulated below:



Note that in all cases the 5 Volt regulated supply is maintained constantly, whilst the unregulated supply will vary a few volts.

Standby Capacity
The ability to maintain the regulated supply with no electrical supply depends on the load taken from the UPS and also the Ampere hour capacity of the battery. If you were using a 7A/h 12 Volt battery and load from the 5 Volt regulator was 0.5 Amp (and no load from the unregulated supply) then the regulated supply would be maintained for around 14 hours. Greater A/h capacity batteries would provide a longer standby time, and vice versa.

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Re: UPS Repair

11/02/2008 10:17 AM

Babybear - that is a battery back up circuit you are talking about...

We are talking about an Uninterruptable Power Supply, which supplies 240 volts (or 120 volts) a.c. to keep any equipment attached working during a power cut.

This is a much more complex piece of equipment than your description.

As for the price being as much as £250 for a PC power supply, just look at ebay and the prices for APC UPS's they range around the £50 mark.

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11/02/2008 12:58 PM

Hello Frank787:

This is exactly what it says a Basic UPS Power Supply.

On the site and, linked to either an earlier site I posted or, this one there is all kinds of UPS devices. And all sorts of schematic drawings.

The original poster has not said what UPS they have yet. There is a chance that one of these sights will lead him to what he is looking for. I am just trying to help, thats all. If you do not like what I post, ignore it.

This is not a sight for 'oneupmanship'.

You may have noticed that I gave you a mention for pointing out that these are or, can be pretty dangerous pieces of equipment.

As for price, you pays your money and takes your choice.

http://www.zen22142.zen.co.uk/Circuits/Power/ups.htm

Basic UPS Power Supply <<<<<<<<<<<<<

Circuit : Andy Collinson
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Description
This circuit is a simple form of the commercial UPS, the circuit provides a constant regulated 5 Volt output and an unregulated 12 Volt supply. In the event of electrical supply line failure the battery takes over, with no spikes on the regulated supply.

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Re: UPS Repair

11/04/2008 7:10 AM

What exactly you want in terms of output voltage? DC, AC and value?

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11/04/2008 7:15 AM

Hello Mike,

What exactly you need in terms of voltage?. Is it DC, AC and value.

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Re: UPS Repair

11/07/2008 8:58 PM

Regards

UPS is a vast-spectrum equipment for power management & also its' techniques;

And its repair & maintenance as much complicated to be discussed in such forums, except

to give some general hints.

It covers from a Battery-back-up to a small Light or Radio set using a diode;

a SuperCapacitor to back-up during the replacement of BIOS battery or like that;

a Large Power Supply [100s of KW] Using Multiple Power-Modules [+system Modules etc ]

of power output 100s of KVA/KW with Redundancy of power to cater for full load even if

1 or 2 modules fail; a back-up- Battery-bank to sustain till the generators are brought

to the scene to take the load.

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