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RAM and BIOS

11/24/2008 2:08 AM

Hi, I bought some RAM the other day, and installed it. Then, I did a crucial scan to find that the 1gb stick was only registering as a 512mb one. Is there anything I can do to make it recognise it? it's PC2700 333MHz. It has a 256 in slot 1 and a 1G in slot 2 Which CPU and which OS are you running? I downloaded HWINFO32, which told me: Computer Computer brand name: Unknown on Noname Motherboard Motherboard Model: MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL Co., LTD MS-6724 Motherboard Chipset: SiS 650 + 962 Motherboard Slots: 3xPCI, 1xAGP v2.0 BIOS BIOS Manufacture: Phoenix - AwardBIOS V6.00PG BIOS Date 01/29/03 BIOS Version V6.00PG Super-IO/LPC Chip: Winbound/Nuvoton W83697HF TMP not found That program recognises the 1GB stick, but the BIOS does not. How can I update the BIOS? It's a RM 1700-256 computer (I think that's the name) I can't take the RAM back, or exchange it Thanks very much

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Re: RAM

11/24/2008 10:43 AM

Maybe you have a problem im memmory parity there. If you have it, consult your motherboard manual to check if you need to install always the memmory modules in pairs or not.

I'd first try a simple test: remove the old memmory card and leave just the 1GB one. Then try and see if it reads the 1GB. If so, its more likely that the two guys wont talk to each other, and they're doing so just for the first 256 MB of both (the same size as the one in slot 1).

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11/24/2008 10:48 AM

I tried using just the 1GB, and the computer wouldn't even work

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11/25/2008 10:46 AM

Did you just remove the 256, or move the 1 gig to slot #1, where the 256 was? If you only have one memory it needs to be in the first slot.

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11/25/2008 11:15 AM

I moved the 1GB to #1, and the PC wouldn't boot up, but it got to the bios, saying that it had half a GB, and then it froze.

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11/24/2008 10:41 PM

Either you RAM is defective or far likelier, it's a BIOS problem. Check the motherboard manufacturer's website for your make and model of motherboard, then download the recommended upgraded firmware and flash software. Follow the manufacturer's instructions EXACTLY when flashing the BIOS, and NEVER shut down the computer or cut off the power when doing so, otherwise your computer will be dead.

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11/30/2008 10:04 PM

That, or check the BIOS settings for the required RAM type and clock-speed.

As a rule of thumb, it is always reccomended that all RAM sticks on a given motherboard be identical (maker, speed and model) and in compliance to motherboard FSB specification, in order to run smoothly and avoid occasional random reset of the PC.

Such mishap may result, which if occurs when HD is in write mode, may render it un-formatteble due to head-crash.

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11/24/2008 11:33 PM

1st, check with the manufacturer that the mobo supports the amount of memory your trying to install, in some cases a BIOS upgrade cannot help you, or the memory type is unsupported.

Generally, you'd run the larger stick in slot 1 and the smaller after the big ones (used to be faster on the older mobo's doing it this way.

Recognising the 1G stick is meaningless if the program reads the data directly from the memory slots I2C memory device, it just tells you whats in there, not that the mobo is capable of running it.

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11/25/2008 8:27 AM

Hi Bondy,

Realy sounds like your bios is in need of update. heres a link to your MOBO mnf although it does not kike your MS-6724 number

http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=searchresult&keywords=ms-6724

Sorry cant help more.

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11/25/2008 10:12 AM

It seems like we just had this thread a few days ago.

You have to put the larger RAM stick in slot 1. If you have a smaller stick in slot 1 then it will read all the other sticks no matter how large they are as being no larger then the first stick.

I don't think it matters if you're using DIMM, but SIMM you need to have the largest one first.

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12/01/2008 2:23 AM

True, SIMM or DIMM. The instructions with the module should have told you (him).

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12/01/2008 10:52 AM

No, the larger one is first, not sure if it is SIMM or DIMM

I can't find an update driver for the BIOS though...

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12/09/2008 1:29 AM

SIMM = Single Inline Memory Module

DIMM = Dual Inline Memory Module

Single/dual is not referred to as the BGA's on the PCB stick, but the arrangement of the gold contacts on the edge of the PCB.

Single Inline has the same electrical connection on both sides, these generally lay down in the slot, the Dual has a electrically isolated pair on either side and these connect in the now more standard vertical (as opposed to laying down on the mobo)

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12/09/2008 2:04 AM

It is SIMM memory

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12/09/2008 8:35 PM

How many pins/pads?

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12/10/2008 2:37 AM

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12/11/2008 2:06 AM

Its a DIMM

32, 72 pins are SIMM (hole connecting the pad on both sides)

168, 184, 200 are DIMM

168 = the early ones like PC-100/133 these have 2 slots in the connector edge strip

184 = DDR400

200 = DDR2 (I think it is, none on ,my desk to verify, but the slot is different too)

??? = DDR3 havn't seen these yet

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