Used Oil Burner and Waste Oil

check with your state epa for waste oil regulations here's ohios:

http://www.epa.state.oh.us/dhwm/pdf/Used_Oil_Burner_Guidance.pdf

milo

This was commonly done in the 50's and 60's by service folks.It was done with home made devices from drip tubes dripping into asbestos wool to rags floating in a pan in fireplaces.I had a uncle that heated with it.There was also a free standing heater called a "Salamander" made of sheet metal that stood alone and would burn motor oil & fuel mixes.They were often used in fruit groves and outside in our southern paper mills in freezing weather.I have not seen one in many years.All were dangerous and caused fires.You never left the home made ones alone!They also left a lot of unburned residue.

The 50's were mostly just plain non-detergent oils when many burned it.Much of it was just poured down the drains and ditches behind the stations and into the rivers in those days.I well remember this being the way most of it was disposed of.Much was also poured on the ground to keep down the dust and control weeds.With all of the chemicals now in motor oils,I would think that you would have the government giving you room and board for years in the USA if you were caught burning it.

Please let us know if you find something.I too would like to know if there is a workable answer.

I wish you luck.alfred

Used refrigeration compressor oil comes under the heading of "Hazardous Industrial Waste," therefore being a controlled or prescribed substance.

This is because the oil can be impregnated with refrigerant which contain either HFCs or CFCs (therefor contain chlorines and fluorines) and must be disposed of as per refrigerants..........by a company that is registered to handle hazardous industrial waste..........I think that use, what is called, "Special Thermal Treatment Technology.

I googled 'free energy' once (& many times since then) & came across a video of a man running a small gasoline motor on something other than gasoline (some form of petroleum product?). At any rate he was able to use this otherwise wasted liquid by running it thru the exhaust pipe & super heating it before it was introduced to the carburetor. Results were (he claimed) that there was practically no residue coming from the motor exhaust pipe. He claimed that many other waste products/liquids can be utilized as fuels using this method. Good luck. Carlitos

I would suggest you go to altfuelfunace news group and ask this question there. This group is for people like my self who are converting common Becket and other fuel oil burners to burn wast vegatable and motor oil. I was surprised to see how many people are doing this. There are not to many that burn motor oil in their house furnaces but allot of people that burn it in thier shops. The burners really do a good job and have very little smoke when they are adjusted correctly. I am sure this question has came up many times there and someone has checked into the freon problem. I would assume that burning the freon will be a big issue. If I am not mistaken all used motor oil is considered a hazardous waste in most states and the problem is the transportation of it more than anything else. There are many commercial waste motor oil furnace manufacturers also that make very nice although a bit pricey furnaces. I have been tinkering with a waste oil burner for one of my glass furnaces and although the burner is working well I have not got it installed yet.

Maintenance Dude,

You would wise to heed the comments of Milo and others with regard to environmental regulations. You may find (unfortunately) that the cost of your project outweighs the obvious benefits. You will probably be required to obtain an air pollution control permit (costly and time consuming), anticipate analytical requirements for your feed stock, record keeping requirements and annual testing along with regulatory visits. Be very careful of accepting used oil from off site. Yet a whole "nother" of set of regulatory requirements.

Still it's a worthy idea.

In Pennsylvania, you can burn used oil that you generate in your garage or shop with little or no regulation. When you start to collect the oil from other institutions it puts you into other commercial classifications and therefore you are regulated more. I have done quite a bit of research on the used oil burners and there are a lot of good manufactures of the burners out there. I have only seen a couple in operation and they are old technology. (require lots of maintenance) The new models claim to be able to burn all oils of all viscosities with a lot less maintenance. Again, this is their claim. I would like to hear these same claims from someone who is actually using one.

thanks

maintenance dude

Hello maintenance dude,

Be Careful Burning any Chlorinated Refrigerants. http://www.idph.state.il.us/Bioterrorism/factsheets/phosgene.htm

Brad

In Pennsylvania don't they have any EPA requirements............I think its about time all you Americans got together and sorted out problems as a country rather than individual states.

We have our problems in Australia with our states........but we only have 8 states or territories.to create problems on a national scale.

However many problems need to be attacked on an International scale............which of course is impossible with all the political, racial and religious barriers that exist................Oh well what the hell!!!!!!!

Hello Mobi,

...I think its about time all you Americans got together and sorted out problems as a country rather than individual states.

The problem comes from the Entity we call the United States that thinks it is a corporation and we let it. The Sovereignty is based in the State not the U.S. collective. The States have bartered and been coerced to to exchange these rights for privileges thus unless we assert our individual rights, the U.S. entity does what it wants. This leaves the individual citizen with no knowledge to effect change. Any collective of citizens is quickly mired by agendas other than its intended effect.

Take our Salomon industry, it has some major issues but so far every attempt to fix it meets with emotional fixes that have no causal effect.

Yes take out the Dams. Because all the un damed rivers have the same problems, even in Alaska where the stream banks have never been touched or the rivers dammed.

Our EPA is no different. They play politics.

My personal opinion is our school systems have taught us as a group to be conforming reactive sheeple not proactive responsible Citizens.

Groups that used to effect major political and social reform on a local and State level are disappearing. Factions have taken control, membership is dropped to all time lows in the ones I did follow. Take the Jaycees (originally the Junior Chamber of Commerce) a young mans leadership organization. From the time I was involved in membership has dropped 80%. They were a force of reason around the world. Now?

The young rising student of success see his leaders here infer by their action that it is all right to be corrupt because if you get away with it to the upper levels it is only a hand slap if you are caught.

Yes we need to effect change but it will cause fear in our public masters.

Sorry for the Rant

Brad

Hi Brad,

I do not consider your comment to be a rant.............in fact........I read it with great interest and what you had to say..........is unfortunately too true.

I must admit my original comments were more of a dig at the "American System"

My personal opinion is our school systems have taught us as a group to be conforming reactive sheeple not proactive responsible Citizens.

Every since I came out of the RAN, I have been teaching and one of my biggest "bitches" with the Teachers Colleges (now Universities)was these educationalists............I consider them to be extremely dangerous. Most teachers in Primary and Secondary education came straight from school into teaching system, having no experience outside of schooling...............their minds are filled with the crap that these idiot educationalists feed them.......to my mind that is where this problem originates.

I tried for four years I tried to start to obtain my Diploma of Teaching..............I never did get past the first year............mainly because I refused to feed them back the bullshit they gave us..............it cost me promotion and money............but...........I had the satisfaction of being one of the only lecturers to have bucked the system.............I may have lost money then, but for the past 14 years I have been with a private provider..............not having to put with the government system............never happier...........I've tried to retire twice, but they keep asking me to come back..............I even have a similar private organization chasing me from Western Australia..........I said, Hey! I'm 68 years old............leave me alone.

Anyhow must go..........I have to get up later on this morning.

Sell that oil to a recycler and use the money to heat the shop with gas.

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