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relation b/w active power and frequency

12/06/2008 4:42 AM

Low frequency indicates too little generation relative to load..Can u give the explaination for this statement?

How the variation in active power generation affects the frequency in the power system for a particular load...??

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Re: relation b/w active power and frequency

12/11/2008 12:32 PM

Sounds like a tuned system. Are you familiar with resonance?

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Re: relation b/w active power and frequency

12/14/2008 4:34 PM

No.Im not familiar with resonance..

Im related Electrical power system..

what Im expecting is,

If the active power generation is less than the actve power requirement for a load in a grid connected power system, what happened to the grid frequency..?Is it drops or increases and If so, why?wolud you give the relation between active power and frequency?

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Re: relation b/w active power and frequency

12/15/2008 9:45 AM

My mistake. I misunderstood your question the first time.

Total power = Active power plus the Re-active power. That is to say that the total power is the vector sum of the power in phase with the generator and the portion which is 90° out of phase due to reactive (inductive or capacitive) loading. In order to meet the requirements of the load, the generator must produce enough power to supply both components. Only the power that is in phase with the generator is useful for doing work. The other (reactive) component sets up the power factor for the system. Ideally you would like the maximum power factor of 1.0 but it can be tricky to keep the inductive and capacitive loading balanced to achieve this.

When the system is balanced, however, it is tuned so that all of the generated power goes to the (resistive) load. In this respect, the system is in resonance at your primary (generator) frequency and your power factor is 1.

Much like driving an automobile up a hill that is very steep; when the power required to maintain a constant speed is greater than the power of the engine, it will slow down. So when the active power required is more than the source of power, it will reduce the RPM or frequency accordingly.

The other option is to let the voltage output drop, but this creates a larger draw of current to satisfy the load. The ultimate answer is to add more power generation equipment to satisfy the demand or load.

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12/15/2008 5:25 PM

Thank you for such a nice clarification.I understood very clear.But can u suggest me any mathematical relation between these two parameters.

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Re: relation b/w active power and frequency

12/16/2008 9:26 AM

I can not suggest any reliable mathematical relationship between frequency and active power since I know nothing about the devices in use. Even then, I would probably have to go to the manufacturer to obtain performance data if they had it.

In general, however, the output frequency is adjusted by an automatic device which senses the load. Assuming it would be set to wide open at 100% of full load (actually it probably operates up to 110% of full load) then F(out) = F (designed)*(system property) where the system property depends on your specific combination of devices.

Factors could include percent slippage of the prime mover (power source to the generator) and available magnetic flux to the generator. So, it is not a simple equation.

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Re: relation b/w active power and frequency

12/17/2008 8:50 AM

Its ok..I'll refer some books to get the relation. In my place, some numerical relays (AREVA make) are using to make a balance between the load and generation of active power by monitoring/sensing (we can called frequency based load shedding) the frequency of the system.

My intention is to know what electrical parameters had been considered while setting the relay.

Anyway, thank you for your reply ..which clarified my query.

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