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Themocouples and Aluminum molds

12/20/2008 12:26 PM

I have an issue and i was hoping for some assistance. We are trying to produce a part from a mold. The mold is 14" by 28" by 1 1/2" thick per plate (2 plates). We have 6 heater bands running the length of the mold and one thermocouple roughly in the middle of the mold. The thermocouple is giving me a true reading at the middle of the mold, but the aluminum is not transfering the heat as was expected. I have about a 10° diffrence from the middle to the end of the mold.

Is there a thermocouple that will better track the variations in the mold? I dont really want to have to go to a zone type of set up. I know that would do the job really well, but it is also a lot more cumbersome with the way these molds are being used.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Themocouples and Aluminum molds

12/20/2008 6:32 PM

You seem to know you have a 10° gradient across the mold, and you seem to think that this is a problem, so, you need to regulate your heaters to achieve the desired temperature across the tool.

A single thermocouple will only report the temperature at a single point.

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Re: Thermocouples and Aluminum molds

12/20/2008 8:24 PM

Is the difference varying over time or fairly consistent? Is the difference causing a problem?

If the diff. isn't causing a problem then move the sensor to the most 'accurate' part of the mold and forget about the difference.

If the diff. is a problem but it is fairly consistent then all you need to do is redistribute the heaters to minimize the diff. while still leaving them on one controller.

If the diff. varies over time then you will need to go zones or modify the mold to improve the thermal conductivity.

Gordie.

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Re: Themocouples and Aluminum molds

12/21/2008 9:46 AM

use optical pyro meters .

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Re: Themocouples and Aluminum molds

01/03/2009 3:00 AM

As I understand it, the problem is not the measurement, but the number of controllers.

Also, I have heard that optical temperature sensors don't work properly on aluminium for some vague reason, although I have no specific experience to confirm or refute this claim. Even if it is true it may only apply to cheap handheld units.

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Re: Themocouples and Aluminum molds

12/21/2008 7:40 PM

The design of flow channels in the mold is probably different at places other than the location of thermocouple and is creating frictional heat. The solution would be to create two more heating zones by splitting the heaters into three sections with individual controllers.

Ragotham

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