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Anti-gravity field generator

01/11/2009 8:27 PM

I would like to build a field generator that would produce a gravity free bubble....I know this is not available with present knowledge, but would like to start a theoretical model...I believe if we could determine the frequency and other characteristics of gravity, that this would be a good place to start....I understand that recent earthquake activity has produced very low-frequency acoustic-gravity waves (~1.4–2.8 mHz) with a group velocity around 300–314 m/s and amplitudes ranging between ~1 and 12 Pa ....If anybody has any ideas, feel free...

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01/11/2009 10:39 PM

The technology indeed exists and is profoundly simpler than most human physicists would believe. After several weeks of intense study ...

... I suddenly realized that I could simply strap a piece of buttered toast to my back! Since I'm a cat, and as cats always land on their feet, no matter what, and noting the fact that buttered toast always lands on the buttered side, no matter what, I decided to combine the two and simply cancel the gravity vector. The force vectors do indeed cancel, as you can see (below). It works, but only if you're a cat.

Here is my little sister on final approach. (I'd have used the guinea pig, but I ate him last night for supper). Unfortunately, the (involuntary) experience has unsettled her a great deal and she's gone catatonic and won't talk to the press.

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01/11/2009 11:03 PM

Do the same laws of physics hold true for the same experiments held south of the equator?

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01/11/2009 11:15 PM

They hold wherever there are cats and buttered toast.

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01/12/2009 2:34 AM

The anti-gravity cam from the space.

The problem is to made connections with the space.

From the space cam energy at low cost.

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01/12/2009 12:07 PM

"The anti-gravity cam from the space."

What kind of space? Office space, maybe? The one next to mine is empty - its occupant was promoted last week and immediately rose to his level of incompetence.

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"The problem is to made connections with the space."

I suspect he has connections.

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"From the space cam energy at low cost."

Energy? What energy? I didn't see no energy!

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01/11/2009 11:47 PM

A big GA for that one. I'll bet Del the Cat is upset he didn't get there first!

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01/12/2009 6:54 AM

Good 'out of the box' thinking... we have, of course, tried this approach...we can only report that the repelling force seems to have been transferred to our cat wrangler,,,who reports an absence of volunteers...

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01/12/2009 9:05 AM

Do guinea pigs have the same propensity to land on their feet or do you just like the idea of attaching a piece of buttered toast to one and tossing it off a roof? If you do it please record it and send the video.

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01/12/2009 10:48 AM

I really haven't any idea whether guinea pigs land on their feet or not, but I do know that guinea pigs taste quite good when served on buttered toast. Buttered side up, you see, open-face like.

The physics bit was just a ruse I used to tease him out of the cage with promises of becoming famous. Guinea pigs are so gullible.

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01/12/2009 1:25 AM

Hi SolarEagle,

I think the others are pussy footing around. The only gravity free bubble I can think of at the moment is the orbiting space station. But if we are looking to formulate an anti gravity field acting against normal gravity, then I think we may need to look at the atomic nuclei, what I am thinking is, what ejects a neutron from an unstable atom core, it does not have an electrical charge, and a neutron star increases gravity, is there an anti gravity force at the core of atoms that can expel particles and photons at high speed. Any thoughts anyone .

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01/12/2009 8:01 AM

Hi jd, we believe the approach here should be not an effect on matter, but on gravity itself...According to our calculations this would call for an extremely dense field such as that generated by a superconductor, it's the characteristics of the current running through such a conductor that we seek...

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01/12/2009 1:30 AM

There is a current trend in studying the possibility of antigravity through desinertializing the infrastructure of the tensor of vacuum,which may include the refractive index of the Higgs Field of inertial mass.
Although most engineers won't like Uri Geller, the Davis report of the USA Air Force Base Edwards is available on his website

Pr Puthoff, formerly of Stanford University, has written many papers on the subject: read his website on Zero Point Energy for further advice & references.
Pr Sarfatti of the Sommerfeld Institute(read on the web)objects to Puthoff the equivalence principle of inertial mass, gravitationnal active and gravitationnal passive.
I have bought Gravity of Misner, Thorne and Wheeler, and suggest you to have a look at this very interesting teaching course.

Indeed, the most promizing approach to antigravity seems to manipulate the vaccum, for example read Puthoof's "can the vacuum be engineered for spaceflight application)

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01/12/2009 1:50 AM

There may be another way of creating it -

The news of the Hardron collider - there was a lot of rumors (and apprehensions) at least in our part of planets that black holes may be created.

If you put two black holes at a given diatance - then the gravity will cancel each other in the center point (only the rubber will be stretched if the point is more than a point) and it will remain thus forever

Anyway after a certain time they will eat-up each other ( not like europium who ate the guineapig but rather like a quiz we heard - if two snake start eating each other from tail side then in the end which one is left out ?) and either before and after us alsi, but the non-gravity remains

a) No body to measure gravity and hence no gravity.

b) In the black holes where all the physics rule collapses - there can not be gravity

Thinking about the first point there are so many inseen and inmeasured stars and planets - do they have gravity ?

Since we have not seen them (physically or mathematically) so they do not exist

If they do not exist they do not have gravity.

I thing in our backyard best method may be the hardron experiment (When is the next attempt ?)

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01/12/2009 5:06 AM

Who is removing my OT points ? (i have a target of collecting them ) like i had contributed to some post about collecting GA points.

But I am finding off late that a lot of my OTs are missing

So I am adding another fiver here.

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01/12/2009 11:58 AM

I believe your OT points may have been sucked into the black hole, in sequential order.

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01/12/2009 6:47 AM

You are confronted with a very difficult problem since gravity was till now only measured but not totally explained.

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01/12/2009 8:57 AM

Very well, then let us assume, for purposes of discussion, that gravity is a force exerted by dark energy displaced by matter, and that dark energy is composed of atomic materials reduced to their smallest component, a minute particle with an inherent charged field that repels within the field and attracts at the edges so that these particles are tightly bound together and evenly spaced except where displaced by matter around which these particles are compressed, resulting in the force of gravity...To picture the particle size, relate an electron to the size of the moon, the particle size then being the size of a grain of sand in corresponding relation to the moon...

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01/12/2009 12:20 PM

Since you found an explanation for gravity I shal as per tomorrow send a proposal to the Nobel Prise Board to give it to you next year!

If they aggree please invite me as well to the feast. I shal pay my flight and hotel room, I swear.

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01/12/2009 8:56 PM

Whenever somebody talks about dark energy I remember Dark Vader.

Welcome to Nobel Prize for alternatives as the main alternative.

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01/12/2009 12:27 PM

"To picture the particle size, relate an electron to the size of the moon, ..."

To be quite honest, SolarEagle, electrons have no size so far as we can tell. They have charge, mass, spin and a few other attributes, but no size.

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01/12/2009 3:49 PM

More accurately, no definite size has been assigned, except to say above zero. We have assigned an approximation for discussion purposes only, as the post reads...

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01/12/2009 4:20 PM

A particle having an extent (within the limits of measurement), such as a proton, would have been far more appropos for discussion purposes, don't you think?

Furthermore, the size of a subatomic particle is not assigned, it is measured.

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01/12/2009 6:10 PM

"A particle having an extent (within the limits of measurement), such as a proton, would have been far more appropos for discussion purposes, don't you think?"

It's been my experience that when confronted with a problem that seems unsolvable, that some people will argue the details or language involved as though that were the problem, this seems a classic case of such behavior...I believe you have misspelled "apropos"...

"Furthermore, the size of a subatomic particle is not assigned, it is measured."

A value can be assigned to any unknown for theoretical modeling...

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01/12/2009 8:50 AM

To alter the effects of gravity you need to build a time/space warping device. I don't have any blueprints on that device but perhaps we can think our way through the design process.

Since gravity can be simulated by adding energy to some mass, thereby accelerating it and changing its location with respect to time, then just moving an object disrupts all of the gravity links. Of course, those links are re-established at the speed of light as the object occupies a different space and crosses the gravity flux.

Or, since E= Mass * (Speed of Light)² and because we know that mass can be converted to energy, then all we have to do is convert energy to mass. But you will need a rather large power source. Then you could eject the mass but don't pollute or you will certainly be considered environmentally unfriendly.

Then again, accelerating some quantity of anti-matter may very well produce the field you desire, but you would have to constantly ramp up and ramp down the acceleration because we can't exceed the speed of light.....or can we? In any case, decelerating (ramping down) should count as an acceleration in the opposite direction but it may double the normal gravity and cancel out the effect.

Perhaps the reason anti-matter is in such short supply is because it is repelled by gravity. If this is the case then it is your source of anti-gravity so all you need is a quantity of anti-matter that has the same mass as you and your bubble. Obviously you will need a magnetic bottle in a vacuum to keep the anti-matter from interacting with any other matter or your bubble (field) will pop. (Actually it will explode!) So be careful, and for heavens sake make sure you don't have a power interruption to the magnetic bottle.

Finally, from an economical perspective, how expensive could a few loaves of toast and a bit of butter actually be? I think that is what is used for the Space Shuttle but it must be stale because it is hard as tile. Maybe the secret is that the toast must be stale. Well, with all of that food for thought, I've gotten hungry so I must go increase my mass.

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01/12/2009 9:18 AM

Lets ask charsley99,.He built one 20 years ago,maybe his dog remembered where he buried it.

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01/12/2009 10:16 AM

So far he aint talkin. But I think he's getting too old to remember. I'll have to drop him in my fountain of youth again.

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01/12/2009 10:55 AM

"Since gravity can be simulated by adding energy to some mass ..."

I cooked spaghetti and noodles last night but I didn't notice the pot becoming heavier as it warmed up. Maybe the effect is delayed, because this morning I seem to have gained a couple of pounds...

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01/12/2009 12:43 PM

Ah, you hit the problem directly between the eyes. You failed to observe the motion that warped your personal space and generated the additional mass. We see, therefore it is. But if we don't see then it is not? Sounds like denial to me! That's not just a river in Egypt.

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01/12/2009 9:12 PM

There is an explanation a line (opposite to the river in Egypt) for the solareagle to follow.

The POT DID BECOME HEAVIER (caps for emphasis and not shouting- bolt could have been enough but it is more than that emphasis, OK I will be bold enough to bold the caps too)

But you didn't find the heavyness due to antigravity.

The antigravity was created by your force field (you were atleast a tiny bit hungry- right - that hungry field - or the field of hunger created the antigravity) and the pot looked much lighter than it was. In fact had you been hungrier, it might have been floating in air and just be around your mouth , who knowes, the spaghetti might have detatched from the pot (anti gravity between them) and hen you have to run around and catch them as they float around the kitchen.

Similarly the field of thurst also may do it (after a peg or two, you can easily lift up a weight you will not try under normal condition - so the item has become light due to the antigravity field exerted by you) but as you walk away , it is back, so for others again it is heavy

Third (Sorry SE) - the antigravity is already discovered and patented. At least in this part of the universe, Bata (or may be Nike- I don't remember ) is selling a brand of shoes called floater - and the ad shows people floating around with the shoe on.

Forget the shoe part, if you concentrate on others you may have some new types of AG generator.

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01/12/2009 11:48 PM

If you can give the spaghetti a magnetic charge, would it stand in a straight line, or stack itself together, like when in the box?

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01/29/2009 9:57 AM

I know that if you mix in a little Viagra, the noodles stand straight up no matter what. It's a nice little trick to play at church potlucks.

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01/12/2009 4:00 PM

We have considered the reverse black hole approach, creating mass from dark energy, but it's too pricey...More than building the device we would just like to create the effect...What about ~140kv @ <1mhz through spherical superconductor?

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01/12/2009 4:30 PM

Since we're pulling ad hoc numbers out of thin air, why not pick something more conventional like 9 VDC through a stainless-steel mixing bowl? Or 120 VAC @ 60 Hz through a 100-watt light bulb? Light bulbs are spherical, more or less and, as you know, the shape is of paramount importance. It, too, being ad hoc.

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Speaking of ad hoc, there has been no Republic of Texas for ~164 years...

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We are already in the timewarp in case you missed it

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01/13/2009 9:59 AM

Gentlemen,

I got a call from Mr. Spock via the dark energy channel ( since he called me I cannot tell how he did it), he was very pleased that at least one human being accepts what was his daily bread in the Enterprise long and adventurous trip. He also said that if the gentleman would be so kind to get in touch with him via the same channel he will give over ALL data and blue prints. Although retired he has full documentation still available.

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01/13/2009 10:27 AM

Don't fall for Spock's scam. First he starts with magnetism, and black holes, and the next thing you know, you have given him a deposit on another hydrogen generator to boost the dilithium crystals. The device is just home built junk. It has to be modified to fit, and produces no improvement.

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01/28/2009 12:34 PM

As a general rule, don't fall for the crap that any of these pointy-eared hobgoblins spew out, especially during Pon Farr, when they try to sell you Vulcan marital aids. Their women are hot, though (not like the planet itself, which is aptly named).

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Where was that advice last month, when I needed it?

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Care for some leftover Plomeek soup?

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WELL!

That certainly explains why the version of the Plomeek soup I made was so bad.

On the copy that I received, the last two letters were missing from the second item.

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01/29/2009 11:08 AM

Spocs first business was selling laser discs, where are they now? Then he was looking for funding for that stupid protomater collection thing, everyone was like you can trust him he's a vulcan. But when the company went belly up and the investors lost their tuniks all he had to say was "well, I am half human." Next thing you know he 'll be trying to sell tribbles.≠ ♥

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01/22/2009 9:38 AM

Dougles Adams said it best

"in order to fly you simply throw your self at the ground and miss. since missing is alway so much easier than hitting your target this should work just fine."

now for Real the secret lies in the search for dark matter, wich does not exist i belive , the dark matter dicrepency is only fouind in high metalic systems with large radio wave emersions much like our own solar system, hasent any one put this together yet,, Radio waves have anti gravitational properties (you heard it here first) we havent learned to measure or under stand, but Tesla said the earth is a giant resinating coil, the frequencys of its gravity feild are out there but i belive they are very small like the micro watts found in/senced in magnatometers. look for these types of energys that we know are coming from the earth for your starting point.

when i visited the coral castle in florida i saw the generator was hooked up to radio tuners i think Ed was onto something ther also research his writing on magnetic fields

personaly i liked the cat and toast method simplicity is always the best answer

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02/26/2009 9:52 AM

You could do search for Tom Beardon or J.L. Naudin they have a large amount of information regarding "free energy" and anti-gravity.

"free energy" is just the energy that Lorenz ignored in his calculations.

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