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Join Date: Dec 2007
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Load Estimation

02/19/2009 8:38 PM
Hi friends
I have two chillers running in parallel specification are
500 RT/360 kW. The chilled water set point are 48 oF for two machines. When
run it normaly it can provide the 48 oF chilled water with 100% Power. But when
we add one specific load the set point goes to 54 oFwith the same power. Do anybody know how to calculate the heat load of this specific load?
calculate the heat load of this specific load?
Pls. throw some words.
Thanks
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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Re: Load Estimation

02/21/2009 2:29 AM

Sound like a Trane water package. Remember it most likely set up to run at 5.5°C TD across the chiller. When the load gets too large, the chiller will try to maintain it but due to the same flow at higher temp it will change a bit. Thus if set point is 5.5°C at 10.5°C in then = 5°C out water but if the load exceeds the chiller Design Cap at a specific flow e.g water will come in at 15°C, it will go back 12°C, thus the bad circle of circumstances starts.

Start at the beginning - do the Heat Calc's, the flow rates and balancing the pipe network, then the pumps that feed them = then balance all up to the chillers used, then you can see if you are in check or not.

Just done an anylysis on ammonia system - losses due to bad previous design, open chilled water ponds at 0.5°C at atmosphere temps of 35 -40°C, client just extending pipes, saving on piping material thickness etc = losing 25 -35% spray cooler capacity under various circumstances. Then there is the fact of cavitation where that bubble can burst up to temps of 1000K - excluding the effect of mechanics, the loss in kW-r is quite alot. Measured at on stage the pumps - losing 2°C over the inlet to outlet of pump alone, at 4 x pumps at 150cub/hr, - make a simple calc of mCp(dt) and you have an idea of what stupid dumb idiot farmers and winemaker people are doiing to themselves! Taking something that looks like a pump from the scrap heap and just fit it ! Saving $1 is wasting $1000's. Why - people do not want to use engineers - cost to much but this scenario is costing these guys in $ = 15000 in energy costs alone.

Being an idiot is not by accident, to be pardoned for it, another idiot in the making.

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Re: Load Estimation

02/21/2009 10:52 AM

For chilled water the formula is Tons=GPM*DT/24.

You should be able to get your GPM close enough off of your pump or chiller specifications.

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